It is amazing how many double standards the left can embrace..a republican christian is a right wing nut ...But when it comes to Obama he invokes faith more than any other candidate running ..not a peep
Faith `plays Every Role' in Obama's Life
Oct 7 11:06 AM US/Eastern
By JIM DAVENPORT
Associated Press Writer
GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) - White House hopeful Barack Obama stood in front of a pulpit Sunday and told worshippers that his faith "plays every role" in his life.
"It's what keeps me grounded. It's what keeps my eyes set on the greatest of heights," Obama told members of the Redemption World Outreach Center, whose 4,200-seat sanctuary was mostly full.
Faith, he said, is "what propels me to do what I do and when I am down it's what lifts me up." The Democratic presidential candidate said God "is with us and he wants us to do the right thing," including breaking down the divisions between Democrats and Republicans and among religions.
When people work together, he said, there is "nothing that can stop us because that's God's intention."
The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church of about 1.2 million members that is considered one the most liberal of the mainline Protestant groups.
The service at the center, founded by an International Pentecostal Holiness Church minister, had members on their feet much of the time singing, swaying and raising their hands. Thumping, rock-concert loud music played from a pulpit sometimes awash with fog and filled with a band and choir.
Obama asked the church's members to pray for him and his family. "Sometimes this is a tough role, being in politics. ... Sometimes you can become fearful. Sometimes you become vain and sometimes you will seek power just for power's sake," he said.
Obama told the audience that people ask him, "`What role does faith play?' I say, `It plays every role.'"
Last week, Obama attended services at a black Baptist church in West Columbia and a white Baptist church a few miles away in Columbia.
His campaign is in the midst of what it calls "40 Days of Faith & Family"—an effort to introduce early voting South Carolina to how Obama's family life and faith have shaped his values.
In an interview with The Associated Press last week, Obama was asked about walking the line where politics and the pulpit meet.
"There are no set guidelines or play book. When I go to church, I go there to worship. I am perfectly content to sit and listen to the music and pray and listen to the sermon," Obama said after last weekend's church services.
Other times—such as this Sunday—Obama takes to the pulpit.
In those instances, he said, "my job is to try to draw a connection between the values that I express to the church and the challenges and issues that we face in politics. ... I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing faith in the public square and I think there's nothing wrong public servants expressing religiously rooted values."
ShaE
10-07-2007, 06:33 PM
It is amazing how many double standards the left can embrace..a republican christian is a right wing nut ...But when it comes to Obama he invokes faith more than any other candidate running ..not a peep
Faith `plays Every Role' in Obama's Life
Oct 7 11:06 AM US/Eastern
By JIM DAVENPORT
Associated Press Writer
GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) - White House hopeful Barack Obama stood in front of a pulpit Sunday and told worshippers that his faith "plays every role" in his life.
"It's what keeps me grounded. It's what keeps my eyes set on the greatest of heights," Obama told members of the Redemption World Outreach Center, whose 4,200-seat sanctuary was mostly full.
Faith, he said, is "what propels me to do what I do and when I am down it's what lifts me up." The Democratic presidential candidate said God "is with us and he wants us to do the right thing," including breaking down the divisions between Democrats and Republicans and among religions.
When people work together, he said, there is "nothing that can stop us because that's God's intention."
The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ, a church of about 1.2 million members that is considered one the most liberal of the mainline Protestant groups.
The service at the center, founded by an International Pentecostal Holiness Church minister, had members on their feet much of the time singing, swaying and raising their hands. Thumping, rock-concert loud music played from a pulpit sometimes awash with fog and filled with a band and choir.
Obama asked the church's members to pray for him and his family. "Sometimes this is a tough role, being in politics. ... Sometimes you can become fearful. Sometimes you become vain and sometimes you will seek power just for power's sake," he said.
Obama told the audience that people ask him, "`What role does faith play?' I say, `It plays every role.'"
Last week, Obama attended services at a black Baptist church in West Columbia and a white Baptist church a few miles away in Columbia.
His campaign is in the midst of what it calls "40 Days of Faith & Family"—an effort to introduce early voting South Carolina to how Obama's family life and faith have shaped his values.
In an interview with The Associated Press last week, Obama was asked about walking the line where politics and the pulpit meet.
"There are no set guidelines or play book. When I go to church, I go there to worship. I am perfectly content to sit and listen to the music and pray and listen to the sermon," Obama said after last weekend's church services.
Other times—such as this Sunday—Obama takes to the pulpit.
In those instances, he said, "my job is to try to draw a connection between the values that I express to the church and the challenges and issues that we face in politics. ... I don't think there's anything wrong with expressing faith in the public square and I think there's nothing wrong public servants expressing religiously rooted values."
isn't obama pro choice?
that would be one of the reasons I can't stand right wing christian nuts, they impose their faith so clearly in policy.
obama isn't against homosexuality. another thing I can't stand about the right wing, so anti gay and I BELIEVE it's based in faith. if they would let up on that shit, christian conservatives, they wouldn't be so damn retarded.
jameznyhc
10-08-2007, 09:10 AM
isn't obama pro choice?
that would be one of the reasons I can't stand right wing christian nuts, they impose their faith so clearly in policy.
obama isn't against homosexuality. another thing I can't stand about the right wing, so anti gay and I BELIEVE it's based in faith. if they would let up on that shit, christian conservatives, they wouldn't be so damn retarded.
Many pro-choice republicans out there like Rudy..
Now let me ask you this why is Obama, Hillary and Edwards all opposed to gay marriage?? seems to me just as many dems are against it as republicans..
ShaE
10-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Many pro-choice republicans out there like Rudy..
Now let me ask you this why is Obama, Hillary and Edwards all opposed to gay marriage?? seems to me just as many dems are against it as republicans..
I don't know, but there's a big diff between being against gay marriage & for civil unions and AGAINST GAYS. Worlds apart.
Secondly, how many pro choice repubs are there? I'd like a rough number.You must be basing it on something if you say "many".
Chris
10-08-2007, 04:06 PM
its sad to see people who side with a SIDE.
seriously are you that much of a sheep?
let gays marry why is that a concern to anyone in this country?
it certainly wouldn't make me upset if the couple next door are fucking in the ass and have a ball at it, as long as they love each other pay there taxes who gives a fly fuck?
funny thing is people in this country politicians especially
want to put baindaides on the cuts instead of fixing the problem.
like lets stop curse words in rap music that will fix the problemm.. um nooo whitey ford fix the reason there is poverty in ghettos across america that raise this ignorant behaivor that would fix some of the rappers mindsets no?
putzes run this country and james i think you a fucking tool with your propoganda,
you pussies talk about wars theres wars going on ourtside, talk about gay marriages while soliders get blown up in iraq. i tell you man if the generals of the armys or the heads of armies rode in on horses to the fights like they used to do back in the day this would all be different cause no sliver spoon faggit would be running office, only the hardened and battle scared would run shit and all the harded and battle scared know to use war as a last resort.
Gspot555
10-08-2007, 04:51 PM
its sad to see people who side with a SIDE.
seriously are you that much of a sheep?
let gays marry why is that a concern to anyone in this country?
it certainly wouldn't make me upset if the couple next door are fucking in the ass and have a ball at it, as long as they love each other pay there taxes who gives a fly fuck?
funny thing is people in this country politicians especially
want to put baindaides on the cuts instead of fixing the problem.
like lets stop curse words in rap music that will fix the problemm.. um nooo whitey ford fix the reason there is poverty in ghettos across america that raise this ignorant behaivor that would fix some of the rappers mindsets no?
putzes run this country and james i think you a fucking tool with your propoganda,
you pussies talk about wars theres wars going on ourtside, talk about gay marriages while soliders get blown up in iraq. i tell you man if the generals of the armys or the heads of armies rode in on horses to the fights like they used to do back in the day this would all be different cause no sliver spoon faggit would be running office, only the hardened and battle scared would run shit and all the harded and battle scared know to use war as a last resort.
Chris, I do read this forum, but I never post, but I had to say that this was a great post and I totally agree with everything you said.
lolz
10-08-2007, 05:47 PM
.. um nooo whitey ford fix the reason there is poverty in ghettos across america that raise this ignorant behaivor that would fix some of the rappers mindsets no?
Wait, so it's Everlast's fault that certain hip-hop artists write lyrics degrating women and glorifying crime?
jameznyhc
10-08-2007, 06:27 PM
I don't know, but there's a big diff between being against gay marriage & for civil unions and AGAINST GAYS. Worlds apart.
Secondly, how many pro choice repubs are there? I'd like a rough number.You must be basing it on something if you say "many".
who is "against gays" lol what does that mean ..most who oppose gay marriage believe gays should have civil unions like myself..
jameznyhc
10-08-2007, 06:35 PM
its sad to see people who side with a SIDE.
seriously are you that much of a sheep?
let gays marry why is that a concern to anyone in this country?
it certainly wouldn't make me upset if the couple next door are fucking in the ass and have a ball at it, as long as they love each other pay there taxes who gives a fly fuck?
funny thing is people in this country politicians especially
want to put baindaides on the cuts instead of fixing the problem.
like lets stop curse words in rap music that will fix the problemm.. um nooo whitey ford fix the reason there is poverty in ghettos across america that raise this ignorant behaivor that would fix some of the rappers mindsets no?
putzes run this country and james i think you a fucking tool with your propoganda,
you pussies talk about wars theres wars going on ourtside, talk about gay marriages while soliders get blown up in iraq. i tell you man if the generals of the armys or the heads of armies rode in on horses to the fights like they used to do back in the day this would all be different cause no sliver spoon faggit would be running office, only the hardened and battle scared would run shit and all the harded and battle scared know to use war as a last resort.
As for gay marriage..again why are all the democratic candidates against it? lol ...maybe they are the tools :heythere
ShaE
10-08-2007, 06:38 PM
who is "against gays" lol what does that mean ..most who oppose gay marriage believe gays should have civil unions like myself..
people, like conservative christians, who believe homosexuality is wrong and shouldn't exist. they are "against" it, they believe it's unnatural and wrong. they're not merely against unions or marriages, they're against homosexuality in general b/c their god tells them it's an abomination.
i didn't really think I'd need to explain that some people think this to you.
ShaE
10-08-2007, 06:47 PM
its sad to see people who side with a SIDE.
you pussies talk about wars theres wars going on ourtside, talk about gay marriages while soliders get blown up in iraq. i tell you man if the generals of the armys or the heads of armies rode in on horses to the fights like they used to do back in the day this would all be different cause no sliver spoon faggit would be running office, only the hardened and battle scared would run shit and all the harded and battle scared know to use war as a last resort.
We talk about iraq, and we talk about other things..why is it one or the other? War is first and foremost b/c americans are dying, and when we dwell too much on that people criticize.
i agree, gay marriage shouldn't be an issue, people should be able to marry and it not matter but unfortunately it's been MADE an issue by some as a wedge issue.
I don't believe in being sheep, I don't give a shit who you identify with as long as you make up your own mind and don't join a group, side, or party b/c you don't have the balls to have your own views. I might disagree, but at least I'll respect the fact you think and have your own views. I think both sides are fucked, both have it wrong in some areas and right in others. If one group had it all right, we wouldn't have any issues at all, not the case.
I hope the next person in charge isn't one who can't see past sides, b/c we don't need any more division in this country.