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AQBILLSMC
08-07-2003, 12:10 AM
will he be a great pitcher or will he be a pitcher that it will
just take getting used to his release. i.e. hideo nomo

TheHipHopBillGates
08-07-2003, 12:18 AM
nomo may have had his up's and down's, but hes still a good pitcher.

AQBILLSMC
08-07-2003, 12:32 AM
he didnt turn out to be like a doc gooden though

TheHipHopBillGates
08-07-2003, 12:43 AM
yeah how did doc gooden turn out?

Unclebuc
08-07-2003, 08:46 AM
Nomo is one of the better pitchers in the game....

Look up his stats before making dumb statements....just because he had a bad year or two doesn't mean shit....he still has put together 6 or 7 good years.

He is 12-9 with a 2.67 ERA with 136 k's in 165 innings.

110-86 with a 3.84 era and 1761 k's.....

As for willis.....He is a rookie....A lot of pitchers have done what he has for a season.....lets see him do it again next year....Remember Steve Avery

Tep
08-07-2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by TheHipHopBillGates
yeah how did doc gooden turn out?

ahhh I think DOC has two rings right? Not bad @ all :)

Unclebuc
08-07-2003, 09:50 AM
Doc = wasted talent

Tep
08-07-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by Unclebuc1
Doc = wasted talent

I wouldnt say that :(

Did you have his career stats???

AQBILLSMC
08-07-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Unclebuc1
Nomo is one of the better pitchers in the game....

Look up his stats before making dumb statements....just because he had a bad year or two doesn't mean shit....he still has put together 6 or 7 good years.

He is 12-9 with a 2.67 ERA with 136 k's in 165 innings.

110-86 with a 3.84 era and 1761 k's.....

As for willis.....He is a rookie....A lot of pitchers have done what he has for a season.....lets see him do it again next year....Remember Steve Avery
i never said he sucked ,but he wasnt as dominant as he was when players first saw him.
i wouldnt say nomo is in the elite in the league.although good becuz pitching is so depleted
in the league.

AQBILLSMC
08-07-2003, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by TheHipHopBillGates
yeah how did doc gooden turn out?
doc was the one of the most dominant pitchers in the 80's.(along w/ clemens)
as for the rest of his career ,he dominated the drug scene

Tep
08-07-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by AQBILLSMC
doc was the one of the most dominant pitchers in the 80's.(along w/ clemens)
as for the rest of his career ,he dominated the drug scene

NOW thats my type of pitcher...some BLOW and a THROW :)

Remember STEVE HOWE? He was soooo coked out when he pitched...BRING HIM BACK ;)