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johnbnyc
06-15-2008, 05:21 PM
UN chief: Saudi to boost oil production
Sunday June 15, 4:19 pm ET
UN chief says Saudi Arabia plans to increase oil production by 200,000 barrels a day


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- Saudi Arabia plans to increase its oil production by 200,000 barrels a day next month, the kingdom's oil minister told U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon on Sunday, according to Ban's spokesman.

The U.N. secretary-general met with Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi in the port city of Jiddah during a one-day trip to the world's largest oil producer.

Farhan Haq, a spokesman who is traveling with Ban, said in an e-mail that the U.N. chief said al-Naimi told him Saudi Arabia would increase oil production by 200,000 barrels a day from June to July. In May, the kingdom increased its production by 300,000.

By July, production should be at 9.7 million barrels a day, Haq said.

Ban also said Saudi Arabia understands that the current price of oil, which topped $139 per barrel earlier this month, is not normal, according to the official Saudi Press Agency.

"The king believes that the current oil prices are abnormally high, and he is ready to restore prices to their appropriate levels," SPA quoted Ban as telling reporters in Jiddah. The report carried by SPA was in Arabic, and it did not say what language Ban spoke in.

Saudi Arabia is concerned that sustained high oil prices will eventually slacken the world's appetite for oil, affecting the kingdom in the long run.

The kingdom has called for a meeting of oil producing and consuming countries on June 22 in Jiddah to discuss ways of dealing with soaring energy prices.

The New York Times reported on Saturday, citing unnamed analysts and oil traders briefed by Saudi officials, that a production increase of about 500,000 barrels per day was to be announced following the meeting.

On Saturday, al-Naim's adviser told The Associated Press that the minister would address the production increase reports the next day. But on Sunday, the adviser, Ibrahim al-Muhanna, said there was no meeting scheduled.

Further attempts to reach al-Muhanna by phone later Sunday went unanswered.

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer, is concerned that sustained high oil prices will eventually slacken the world's appetite for oil, affecting the kingdom in the long run.

Crude prices have reached record highs, surpassing $139 per barrel on June 6 after surging nearly $11 in the biggest single-day price leap ever.

The prices had receded by Friday, with the benchmark light, sweet crude for July delivery falling $1.88 to settle at $134.86 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. In London, July Brent crude lost $1.84 to settle at $134.25 on the ICE Futures exchange.

The current president of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Chakib Khelil, has said that the cartel will make no new decision on production levels until its Sept. 9 meeting in Vienna. OPEC ministers often follow the lead of the Saudis when discussing whether to increase production to take the pressure off rising prices.

Benny B
06-15-2008, 08:31 PM
that number varies.. ive heard 200k ive heard 800k and ive heard 500k

jameznyhc
06-16-2008, 10:07 AM
its just going to fund more radical madrassas , and get in the hands of terrorists ..we all know how shady the royal family is .. I dont know why McCain and Obama wont drill its lunacy ..

Benny B
06-16-2008, 10:20 AM
welll you have to remember james.. there isnt one answer that will fix the problem wtih oil... you have couple issues that need to be fixed.. 1. speculators need to be removed from the equation because of the price fixing... ever notice how when oil hits a new high you'll see goldman sucks i mean sachs say in the same article they see it going to XXXX number higher??? ggg i wonder why... 2. we can produce all the oil someone wants.. but with what means to refine it??? 3. still need to come up with alternative fuels 4. i dont have a 4 but i figured 4 points would have been better then three.

jameznyhc
06-16-2008, 10:29 AM
welll you have to remember james.. there isnt one answer that will fix the problem wtih oil... you have couple issues that need to be fixed.. 1. speculators need to be removed from the equation because of the price fixing... ever notice how when oil hits a new high you'll see goldman sucks i mean sachs say in the same article they see it going to XXXX number higher??? ggg i wonder why... 2. we can produce all the oil someone wants.. but with what means to refine it??? 3. still need to come up with alternative fuels 4. i dont have a 4 but i figured 4 points would have been better then three.

Exactly ..remeber exxon mobile only purchase 3% of the worlds oil on the free market ..the problem is we have no refineries, ..we need nuclear energy, and of course cleaner fuels .. but tax oil companies is suicide like Obama wants to do .. ..the drilling is only 1/4th the solution but its taken off the table by the 2 assholes running for prez

Benny B
06-16-2008, 10:36 AM
Exactly ..remeber exxon mobile only purchase 3% of the worlds oil on the free market ..the problem is we have no refineries, ..we need nuclear energy, and of course cleaner fuels .. but tax oil companies is suicide like Obama wants to do .. ..the drilling is only 1/4th the solution but its taken off the table by the 2 assholes running for prez

ohh i just thought of number 4.. lol even if you come up with an alternative resource you still need to be able to build a new infrastructure to support it. look how many gas stations are accross the country.. cant just expect them to flip a switch to magically serve "x" product because its the new alternative resource. things are going to take time.. but they need to do what they can to lower prices of oil to make it so we can spend money on r&d to come up with new solution and implement it

John Kennedy
06-16-2008, 10:58 AM
ohh i just thought of number 4.. lol even if you come up with an alternative resource you still need to be able to build a new infrastructure to support it. look how many gas stations are accross the country.. cant just expect them to flip a switch to magically serve "x" product because its the new alternative resource. things are going to take time.. but they need to do what they can to lower prices of oil to make it so we can spend money on r&d to come up with new solution and implement it

The problem is the oil companies are so verticilally integrated.. how do you convince an oil company which owns rights to oil fields, the drills, the pumps, the barges, the refineries, and the gas stations, to lower their prices or to seek alternative sources of income? With tax incentives. They have no incentive right now to stop doing what they're doing.

Benny B
06-16-2008, 11:11 AM
The problem is the oil companies are so verticilally integrated.. how do you convince an oil company which owns rights to oil fields, the drills, the pumps, the barges, the refineries, and the gas stations, to lower their prices or to seek alternative sources of income? With tax incentives. They have no incentive right now to stop doing what they're doing.

number 1. who says big oil is the one who has to provide us with the alternative resource???? number 2. do you realize the amounts of tax breaks and funding they are being provided currently for this exact purpose?

John Kennedy
06-16-2008, 11:33 AM
number 1. who says big oil is the one who has to provide us with the alternative resource???? number 2. do you realize the amounts of tax breaks and funding they are being provided currently for this exact purpose?

Because they're in the business of energy and have the infrastructure in place to deliver alternate energy once it gets to that point. It has to be massively deployed for it to be economical.. who's gonna do it, a startup? Look what start-ups are dealing with in California. (http://www.mercurynews.com/greenenergy/ci_9279570) Tax incentives are expiring this year for alternate energy and the house and senate let it die, because these oil company lobbyists are running the country. Why are they against a tax that they could easily avoid by investing in alternate fuel? They aren't doing shit because they don't have to. This is a political issue not just financial.. these companies are why we're in a mess in the mid-east. And the technology is there thats what makes it more sickening.

ShaE
06-16-2008, 01:01 PM
They aren't doing shit because they don't have to.

This is a political issue not just financial.. these companies are why we're in a mess in the mid-east. And the technology is there thats what makes it more sickening.
bingo

jameznyhc
06-17-2008, 09:10 AM
The problem is the oil companies are so verticilally integrated.. how do you convince an oil company which owns rights to oil fields, the drills, the pumps, the barges, the refineries, and the gas stations, to lower their prices or to seek alternative sources of income? With tax incentives. They have no incentive right now to stop doing what they're doing.

they operate on a 8% profit margin ...,most comapnies operate on 12-20% profit margins.. taxing them will just make it way more expensiive to the consumer .. Obama stuck in the carter days with this one