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jameznyhc
09-28-2008, 11:35 AM
Anyone who studies history the oppressed allways flee to free nations.. and when people are freed as god intended people to be .they embrace it.. More progress, its not over in iraq .. but things just keep getting better .. how many news stories you see this on??




IRAQ'S parliament this week unanimously approved a law paving the way for municipal elections. The main factions agreed to put off the dispute over the status of Kirkuk, Iraq's fifth-largest city, and allow voting in 14 of the nation's 18 provinces.

Left out of the process for now are the three provinces of the Kurdish autonomous region plus oil-rich Kirkuk, where a power-sharing scheme between the majority Kurds and other communities (Arabs, both Shiite and Sunni, and Turkmen) remains to be negotiated.

Immediately after the law passed, the government announced that elections for city and provincial councils would be held on Jan. 31. The law now goes before the country's three-man presidency council, headed by President Jalal Talabani, an ethnic Kurd.

Holding municipal elections is crucial to Iraq's new and still fragile democracy.

To start with, the elections will allow the new leadership that has emerged locally to establish its popular legitimacy. In many provinces, especially the four where Sunni Arabs form a majority, this new generation is determined to challenge the central leadership, which consists mostly of former exiles.

The returning exiles built their popular base top-down. The new generation of leaders has operated in the opposite direction, building support at the grass-roots level before claiming a share of power.

The biggest group likely to benefit from the coming elections is the "Awakening Movement," consisting mostly of former Arab Sunni insurgents who turned against al Qaeda and helped clear terrorists out of Anbar and Salahuddin provinces.

The elections will also provide an opportunity for a massive reshuffling in the Shiite community, which accounts for some 60 percent of the population. Some parties with a large share of power in the central government may lose the provincial bases that they've secured thanks to patronage and other corrupt practices.

The Shiite bloc that won the two previous general elections is now divided - offering voters a wider choice, especially because many candidates with local support will stand as independents.

The elections are also important because they'll create new organs of local government directly responsible to the electorate and thus accountable on a day-to-day basis.

Resources the central government now allocates to local authorities are controlled by appointed officials, often promoting sectarian and factional interests.

The creation of elected local government organs paves the way for the full implementation of the decentralization law enacted last year. This will allow the provinces a large measure of autonomy (economic, cultural and social), reflecting Iraq's ethnic and religious diversity.

Sources in Baghdad say local elections in the four remaining provinces will be held at the same time as the parliamentary elections, likely to be fixed for next spring.

Some Western observers had warned that the Kirkuk issue could unravel Iraq's new democracy. That hasn't happened, as Iraqi political leaders have demonstrated their readiness to learn the art of compromise and the virtue of patience.

One reason they appear determined to complete the electoral cycle by next April is their doubts about US policies in the next administration. The Iraqi leaders hope that holding successful local government and parliamentary elections will put them in a stronger position even if they have to deal with a President Barack Obama, who opposed the toppling of Saddam Hussein.

"We want the American people to know that Iraqis understand and like democracy," says an adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. "The toppling of Saddam Hussein gave us a chance to try something different, i.e. democracy, and our people liked it."


http://www.nypost.com/seven/09272008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/another_step_for_iraqi_democracy_130926.htm

admin
09-29-2008, 11:54 AM
who gives a shit? Why dont you look at this country and the market instead.

tribaljunkee
09-29-2008, 12:02 PM
who gives a shit? Why dont you look at this country and the market instead.

i have a question that always comes up with friends abroad who see this a bit differently

When things go bad in other countries, citizens of that country quickly look at America for a helping hand. Many people are very interested in what the global community thinks of America. Yet others are saying we should fix "our backyard" before we give aid to others. Its a catch 22. We are expected to help fix the world, but first have the local front all patched up.

jameznyhc
09-29-2008, 01:47 PM
who gives a shit? Why dont you look at this country and the market instead.

I have been i can multi task .. secondly its important for democracy to succeed there .. this way were looked at as liberators and not occupiers..

metfan85
09-29-2008, 02:00 PM
I have been i can multi task .. secondly its important for democracy to succeed there .. this way were looked at as liberators and not occupiers..

You can, a nation can not. when are neo-cons going to realize, America is not Almighty can not do things at will. There are limits to power. Typing and talking on the phone, are different than taking care of internal infrastructure while completely changing the landscape of a world set in its ways for thousands of years.

You speak of God, but then go on to preach that we as an earthly nation can impose our will and ideas ad infinitum



i have a question that always comes up with friends abroad who see this a bit differently

When things go bad in other countries, citizens of that country quickly look at America for a helping hand. Many people are very interested in what the global community thinks of America. Yet others are saying we should fix "our backyard" before we give aid to others. Its a catch 22. We are expected to help fix the world, but first have the local front all patched up.

Edmund Burke said it best...

"Among precautions against ambitions, it may not be amiss to take caution against our own. I must fairly say that I dread our power and our position; I dread our being to much dreaded... We shall say we must not abuse this astonishing and unheard of power. But every other nation will think we shall abuse it. It is impossible but that sooner or later, this state of things which must produce, a combination against us which may end in our ruin."

jameznyhc
09-29-2008, 03:55 PM
You can, a nation can not. when are neo-cons going to realize, America is not Almighty can not do things at will. There are limits to power. Typing and talking on the phone, are different than taking care of internal infrastructure while completely changing the landscape of a world set in its ways for thousands of years.

You speak of God, but then go on to preach that we as an earthly nation can impose our will and ideas ad infinitum




Edmund Burke said it best...

"Among precautions against ambitions, it may not be amiss to take caution against our own. I must fairly say that I dread our power and our position; I dread our being to much dreaded... We shall say we must not abuse this astonishing and unheard of power. But every other nation will think we shall abuse it. It is impossible but that sooner or later, this state of things which must produce, a combination against us which may end in our ruin."


Right but Burke supported America.. See if you read the article this is clearly a step for the Iraqi people not us .. and its important they remain an ally .. secondly id hate to see 4000+ kids die in vain ..so any good news out of iraq towards their own liberation is positive