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digital kemical
05-21-2009, 02:51 PM
well, are ya?

now cough it out..... now cough it out.

:yourcrazy

but hmmm, stolen air force 1, no picures.

swine flu around the same time.

swine flu now a serious problem.

read, and sniff below.

While people say I might be crazy, this might have happened, and is happening...

My whole thing is, if you do catch the swine flu 1 time, how long before you catch it again? and again, and again... kind of weird, like air force 1. :wallbang

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_4724.shtml

The history of the synthetic H1N1 flu virus and a not-so-rosy future
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer


May 21, 2009, 00:20

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(WMR) -- The history of the extraction of the genetic material from the corpses of victims of the 1918 Spanish influenza virus who were buried in Arctic permafrost is part “X-Files” and part “Jurassic Park.”

After an unsuccessful 1951 mission, that involved U.S. biological warfare specialists, to extract 1918 Spanish flu genetic material in 1951 from a cemetery in the Inupiat Eskimo village of Brevig Mission, Alaska, scientists made another attempt, a successful one it turns out, in 1997.

Dr. Johan Hultin, from the State University of Iowa, successfully extracted genetic material from the corpse of an obese 30-something female who died from the Spanish flu in 1918, along with 85 percent of Brevig Mission’s (called Teller Mission in 1918) villagers in a single week. The pandemic killed at least 50 million people around the world.

Once the Spanish flu genetic material was obtained from the lungs, spleen, liver, and heart of the Eskimo woman’s corpse, scientists, in a scene reminiscent of the fictional movie “Jurassic Park,” in which genetic material from extinct dinosaurs is used to bring the creatures back to life, recreated the long-since dead 1918 Spanish flu in a U.S. government-funded laboratory. The woman’s organs were cut into one-inch cubes and shipped to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Rockville, Maryland, where the virus’s genetic RNA material was identified and the 1918 Spanish flu was successfully brought back to life.

The search for the frozen bodies of 1918 flu victims was not limited to Alaska. Another team of scientists, acting like Dr. Frankenstein’s “Igor,” set out to dig up the graves of miners who died from the flu in the remote Norwegian mining village of Longyearbyen in Spitsbergen, which lies north of the Arctic Circle.

WMR has learned from a research scientist who has been working on the recreation of the 1918 flu that the genetic material has been re-engineered to synthetically create what is now known as the A/H1N1 virus, or as the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) calls it, the “novel flu.”

The A/H1N1 influenza, which contains genetic material from two strains of swine flu, two strains of human flu, and a single strain of avian flu, has, according to the World Health Organization (WHO), infected, as of May 13, a total of 4,880 people in North America: 2,059 in Mexico; 2,535 in the United States, and 286 in Canada. There have been 56 reported deaths from the flu in Mexico, three in the United States, and one in Canada.



What is different about A/H1N1 is that, unlike other new strains of viruses that rapidly mutate upon emerging and then slow down mutation and then stop entirely, the “novel” or incorrectly-named “swine flu” is showing no signs yet of slowing down its mutation rate and that, according to scientists who worry about A/H1N1 being synthetically-generated, does not happen in nature.

In 2006, at a summit meeting in Cancun, Mexico, President George W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and Mexican President Vicente Fox agreed for their nations to coordinate their response to avian flu, which was spreading in Asia. National Public Radio, on April 2, 2006, ran a segment on how bird flu wreaked havoc in 1918 in Brevig Mission. NPR’s Weekend Edition ran a report from Brevig Mission by Lori Townsend of Alaska Public Radio: “The grave has been opened twice by the same pathologist. In 1951, Johann Hultin convinced village elders to allow him to take tissue samples from bodies buried in permafrost. His lab attempts to map the virus were unsuccessful, but he returned in 1997, and when he did, he was once again given permission to re-open the grave.”

WMR has learned from a journalist from Anchorage who covered the 1997 grave exhumation that there was CIA personnel with the team of scientists. Inuit elders of Brevig Mission argued that digging up the graves of the flu victims would release evil spirits. However, money allegedly changed hands between the U.S. government research team and some of the elders, so permission to dig up the graves was granted.

NPR and Alaska Public Radio was reporting what was extracted from the 1918 flu victim’s corpse was the H5N1 avian flu virus, but that was erroneous. Or was it? If what was extracted from the dead woman’s body in Brevig Mission was used to synthetically create the current A/H1N1 virus, there is a strain of avian flu in the virus. But the current A/H1N1 virus also contains swine and human flu strains.

What has been relayed by the researcher is that the original 1918 virus was the H1N1 virus. In Bio-safety level 3 (BSL-s) laboratory work that was largely classified, the virus was artificially combined with common H3N2 and a minor gene splice from the H5N1 Eurasian avian flu strain.

The avian flu or H5N1 virus that struck Asia in 2006 contained some genetic mutations of the 1918 virus. And scientists researching pandemic flu strains have, since the recreation of the 1918 flu, been playing fast and loose with flu samples. On April 17, 2005, The Washington Post reported that Meridian Bioscience, which was under contract to the College of American Pathologists, accidentally distributed the pandemic H2N2/Japan flu strain, as part of a flu testing kit, to influenza laboratories around the world. WHO ordered the labs to immediately destroy the flu sample because it was worried about an accidental release of the pandemic virus, resulting in a global health crisis. In 1957, H2N2 killed a million people around the world.

The Post’s article, by Wendy Orent, states that scientists were working to create an artificial strain of the 1918 virus: “[Scientists] can combine some 1918 genes either with laboratory strains that have been adapted to grow in mice, which don’t normally catch human flu, or with ordinary human flu strains to yield new artificial strains. Then the researcher infects mice with his new strain. Strains using three of the 1918 genes are already known to kill mice.”

The same Post article quotes Peter B. Jahrling, the chief scientist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, about the danger of the virus recreation research. Jahrling stated the research was like ”looking for a gas leak with a lighted match.” The article continues: “What concerns Jahrling and Brown, among others, is that experiments involving 1918 genes are not being carried out under the highest biosafety level, BSL-4. While most of the scientists use what is known as BSL-3 plus, or enhanced, conditions, they do not use space suits, chemical showers or gas-tight cabinets in their work.”

Lastly, the article has a stark warning regarding the 1918 flu reconstruction at the military laboratory in Rockville, research led by Dr. Jeffery Taubenberger. The article states: “Even more disturbing is what may happen when Taubenberger publishes the remaining three gene sequences. Then the entire 1918 flu could be built from scratch by anyone, anywhere, who has sufficient resources and skill. It is quite conceivable that resurrected 1918 flu could someday be used as a bioterrorist agent.”

In a January 29, 2006, New York Times article by Jamie Shreeve, titled “Why Revive a Deadly Flu Virus?,” it is reported that the 1918 flu had been successfully revived. The article states: “In October, a team of scientists, [CDC’s Terrence] Tumpey among them, announced that they had recreated the extinct organism from its genetic code -- essentially the scenario played out in the movie ‘‘Jurassic Park,’’ albeit on a microbial scale. In the movie, the scientists’ self-serving revivification of dinosaurs leads to mayhem and death . . . How dangerous is the 1918 virus to today’s population? Its genetic code is now in public databases, where other researchers can download it to conduct experiments. Scientists from the University of Wisconsin and the National Microbiology Laboratory in Canada have already collaborated to reconstruct the virus from the publicly available sequence. How easy would it be for a bioterrorist to exploit the same information for malevolent ends?”

The article details how the 1918 genetic material was extracted and who worked on the project: “The resurrection of the 1918 influenza virus was a team effort engaging the resources of the C.D.C. in Atlanta, an obscure military pathology lab outside Washington, D.C., an esteemed group of influenza experts at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York and one elderly Swede. Though the story has been told before, it is impossible not to begin with the Swede. In 1950, Johan Hultin, then a 25-year-old graduate student at the University of Iowa, was searching for a Ph.D. topic when he heard a visiting virologist say that the only way to solve the mystery of the 1918 pandemic would be to recover the virus from a victim who had been buried in permafrost.”

There has been yet another secretive U.S. government group involved in researching bio-warfare agents like influenza. Known simply as JASON, the group consists of civilian scientists, the top experts in their fields and a number of Nobel laureates, who meet periodically and issue reports, many of which are classified. JASON has been in existence for 40 years and is thought to be a follow-on to the Manhattan Project, the top secret scientific group that created the atomic bomb during World War II. In fact, some of JASON’s earliest members helped to design both the atomic and hydrogen bombs. Its first three members were scientists at Los Alamos National Laboratory, the home of the Manhattan Project.

Operating under the aegis of the MITRE Corporation, a federally-funded contracting entity, JASON scientists primarily met in the highly-secured Building 29 at 3550 General Atomics Court in San Diego. The location is the address of the Torrey Pines Institute. Funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), JASON also has links, according to distribution lists on JASON reports, to the CIA. The CIA maintains an element called the IC [Intelligence Community] JASON Program under the Chief Technical Officer. Traditionally, JASON self-selects its members from a number of academic disciplines. However, JASON almost lost its funding a few years ago, when, after issuing a report critical of the Bush administration’s ballistic missile defense program, DARPA attempted to force three new members, obviously political overseers, on to the JASON membership rolls. DARPA’s chief, Tony Tether, pulled funding for JASON, forcing the group for the first time since its inception in 1959 to look for another Pentagon sponsor. The ballistic missile defense program, also called Star Wars II, was a personal pet project of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

JASON survived when DARPA’s parent orgzniation, the Pentagon’s Directorate for Defense Research and Engineering (DDR&E), provided JASON with direct funding, an indication of the power enjoyed by the secretive JASON organization. JASON also has other federal government sponsors, including the Department of Energy.

JASON is also very much involved in issues of biological warfare. JASON produced a report on Civilian Biodefense in January 2000, which was highly redacted when released. Even the names of the report’s authors and the information on four bio-warfare scenarios is completely blacked out, except for a discussion of a 1947 smallpox incident in Scenario Two. The report also states that the CIA’s Clandestine Measurement and Signatures Intelligence (MASINT) Operations Center and Counter-Proliferation Center were interested in biological weapons intelligence collection and signatures. A section of the report on “Managing Civilian Response” to a bio-war attack is also completely redacted, as is a section on domestic intelligence. A page on the anthrax threat references “psychological BW [biological weapons] warfare.” The JASON report was completed almost two years before anthrax attacks all but suspended the work of Congress after 9/11 and saw the quick passage of the USAPATRIOT Act.

The JASON report also discusses the mining of medical data, including patient billing records, to find out if a disease outbreak has occurred and how far and what direction it is spreading by examining “spatiotemporal patterns,” including “averaging statistics for humans traveling globally.”

In fact, the JASON Civilian Biodefense report mirrors, in many respects, the analysis being currently conducted by medical intelligence (MEDINT) agencies around the world on the outbreak and spread of A/H1N1. And that begs the question: is A/H1N1, artificially-developed by U.S. government scientists, the real thing or a test run for something much worse?

Gspot555
05-21-2009, 02:59 PM
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sadelb
05-21-2009, 04:49 PM
Its just a regular flu.

digital kemical
05-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Its just a regular flu.

no its not, its swine flu, in other words, pig flu, mixed in with human flu, almost like a flu cocktail.... yeah.

well, I dont want to feel like what a pig, and a a bird feel like when getting sick. because its also part bird... yuck.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/

Novel influenza A (H1N1) is a new flu virus of swine origin that was first detected in April, 2009. The virus is infecting people and is spreading from person-to-person, sparking a growing outbreak of illness in the United States.

the thing is, its not seasonal. meaning people are catching it everywhere... while I am no so much scared to get it, I worry about a "new" desease killing off people... for example, new borns, and old people.

and summer is about to start, who wouldnt be pissed about catching the swine flu right when it gets nice out... swine cocktail....

now, it can even go so far as to if you gave somebody the swine flu, and it did kill them, can you be held responsible? it aint a crazy thing to think, considering all the school closures.... and considering the at risk factor people....

what if some wack job got the swine flu and went into schools and places sneezing on people and shit, get my point?

sneezing on preganant women and shit???

not so crazy of a thought now.... im gonna sue you for giving me the swine flu.... crazy huh? Im pretty sure we might see it... :heythere

I mean, this is america.


peep this.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/19/AR2009051902609.html


A survey of people hospitalized because of swine flu in California has raised the possibility that obesity is as much of a risk factor for serious complications from the flu as diabetes, heart disease and pregnancy, all known to raise a person's risk.

"We were surprised by the frequency of obesity among the severe cases that we've been tracking," said Anne Schuchat, one of the CDC epidemiologists managing the outbreak. She said scientists are "looking into" the possibility that obese people should be at the head of the line along with other high-risk groups if a swine flu vaccine becomes available.

Other studies have shown that pregnant women are also at higher risk for serious influenza infection, especially in the third trimester, when the fetus and womb compress the lower parts of the lungs. This makes it harder to breathe deeply and cough forcefully; it may also alter blood flow in the chest. A similar thing may be occurring in severely overweight people, some experts speculated.


more below....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30865696/

Sanchez checked into a suburban hospital Saturday, vomiting blood and burning with fever, Huitron told The Salt Lake Tribune. By Tuesday he was suffering from multiple organ failure.

Dr. David Sundwall, executive director of the Utah Department of Health, said Marcos, the state’s first swine flu fatality, was overweight and had chronic medical conditions, including respiratory problems, that put him at risk.

“This is not a person who was overall genuinely healthy,” Sundwall said.

digital kemical
05-21-2009, 06:40 PM
interesting statistic, im going to go out now, hope i dont catch the swine flu, LMAO!!

We got beef if you give me the swine flu, LOL



http://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineFluNews/story?id=7647943&page=1

Of the swine flu cases reported to the CDC, 64 percent are in 5- to 24-year-olds and just 1 percent are in individuals older than 65. That's an unusual pattern compared with seasonal influenza, which primarily affects the very young or old.

JustLikeHeaven
05-22-2009, 11:01 AM
LMAO omg wtf. U are def gonna give yourself swine by law of attr...u can't stop talkng abt it!!!

GuZzZ
05-22-2009, 12:05 PM
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:lol

James Maxx
05-22-2009, 02:56 PM
Just stay away from Mexicans and kids in Queens youll be fine.

digital kemical
05-22-2009, 07:06 PM
Just stay away from Mexicans and kids in Queens youll be fine.

well james it out on LI, in valley stream, and in levitown. its spreading , enough were anybody in theory can catch it. its not seasonal .

I mean if anybody did catch it, and gave it to others, it would be like rememver in 09 when ya gave me the swine flu :lol :lol :lol :pullhair

I mean, its in all my pucnh lines....


nahhh you aint hittin my blunt I think you goit the swine flu ha chew... :heythere

oh you feel bad girl, im saying call me back when you get over the swie flu......


shit bring me back to 99, way batter drugs, music no seine flu....

MichelleT
05-22-2009, 07:27 PM
Lolol... you should be more afraid to catch AIDS... Seriously... Unless you have a compromised immune system chances of dying from the flu are slim to none.

rob_in_chi
05-23-2009, 07:31 PM
actually swine flu is hurting people cross seas now bigtime... & i heard that theres 100,000 cases in the US... its probably not a joking matter but,,, im not afraid nor think about it.

ShaE
05-23-2009, 10:15 PM
nope

digital kemical
05-25-2009, 05:05 AM
nope


glad your not scared of bush/chaneys flu cocktail.....l......they be stopmin in their air force ones.... now cough it out.... yuck, swine flu in the summer..... hot fever, pig vomit :pullhair smells yummy dont it, huh?


http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-nyswin2512802010may24,0,975137.story

NYC officials: Swine flu now most prevalent strain


As New York City officials announced Sunday a second swine flu death, they said the H1N1 virus was now more widespread than the seasonal flu and urged quick treatment for any flu sufferers who also have an underlying medical condition.

"If you have flulike symptoms, it's more likely you have the H1N1 virus than the seasonal flu," said Jessica Scaperotti, a spokeswoman for the city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

Authorities released scant information about the latest swine flu fatality, saying only that the Queens woman in her 50s died over the weekend and had an underlying medical condition.

:pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair :pullhair

La La Lori
05-27-2009, 03:10 PM
I wasnt until I saw that Troops in Kuwait had it. I mean yes they could have been in contact with mexicans that had it but still...it scared me. More and More schools are shutting down all over because of it & I see on the news if you have certain ailments you are in a lot of trouble if u get swine flu.

I'm not paranoid or anything because there's nothing u can do to stop yourself from getting it, but I would be afraid if I actually did catch it bc I have a low immune system.

digital kemical
05-28-2009, 03:53 PM
I wasnt until I saw that Troops in Kuwait had it. I mean yes they could have been in contact with mexicans that had it but still...it scared me. More and More schools are shutting down all over because of it & I see on the news if you have certain ailments you are in a lot of trouble if u get swine flu.

I'm not paranoid or anything because there's nothing u can do to stop yourself from getting it, but I would be afraid if I actually did catch it bc I have a low immune system.


if you notice the people dropping from the swine flu is people with low immune systems and "other medical conditions"

kroms
05-28-2009, 04:20 PM
this kid loves the swine flu.

JenniFa
05-30-2009, 01:36 AM
im not scared to get it.. i am scared if my son were to get it tho.. hes too small

jameznyhc
05-30-2009, 05:06 AM
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