Wow how low can media go ... Blame Oreilly and Fox for abortion docs death

[jameznyhc]

By BILL O'REILLY

THE liberal outcry over the murder of George Tiller, the late-term abortion doctor from Kansas, demonstrates exactly where American discourse is going.

Shot dead in a church by an anti-government militant, Tiller did not deserve his fate. Even though the man destroyed an estimated 60,000 fetuses that could have lived outside the womb, he was an American citizen entitled to protection. No matter what you think about abortion, it is a sad day for the country when vigilantism takes a life.



It took just minutes after the report of Tiller's murder for the far-left loons to hit the Web sites. Postings on Daily Kos and The Huffington Post immediately blamed Fox News and me for inciting Tiller's killer. Even though I reported on the doctor honestly, the loons asserted that my analysis of him was "hateful."

Chief among the complaints was the doctor's nickname: "Tiller the baby killer." Some pro-lifers branded him that, and I reported it. So did hundreds of other news sources. But the bigger picture here is the glorification of Tiller.

The uber-liberal New York Times led the way, editorializing: "For his principled devotion to women's health and constitutionally protected rights, Dr. Tiller was the target of protests at his clinic, his house and his church."

The Times made Tiller out to be a hero. The paper's editorial never mentioned that he aborted fetuses after 21 weeks, when they could live outside the mother's womb.

The Times opinion also did not mention that Tiller became a millionaire doing this, or that only three late-term abortion clinics exist in the entire country. Nor did the editorial writer put forth that 36 states restrict late-term abortions without violating the Constitution.

As usual, The New York Times editorial page failed to tell its readers the whole story.

But that was nothing compared to NBC News, which went full tilt in blaming pundits for the death of Tiller.

NBC anchorman Brian Williams led that charge, overseeing a report that emphasized the verbal criticism of Tiller rather than the militancy of the person who shot him. NBC pundits filled the night with slanderous wails against those who opposed Tiller's deadly practice.

But behind all the bluster was a well thought-out, coordinated campaign. By exploiting the death of Tiller, the far left is seeking to silence Americans who are appalled at late-term abortion.

By demonizing people like me who believe that terminating viable fetuses must only be done when there are catastrophic health ramifications, pro-abortion zealots are trying to inhibit dissent on the abortion issue in general.

That's the same tactic in play on gay marriage: Oppose it and you're a homophobe. The far left well understands that the media will pick up the demonizing tactics and shove them down the throats of the American people.

The debate in America is no longer about rational points of view. It is now about the strategy of destruction. The murder of Dr. Tiller, as misguided as he was, can never be condoned.

But neither can the hateful, dishonest tactics of the far left.

Bill O'Reilly is the top-rated cable talk- show host for the Fox News Channel.

[ShaE]

sorry, had to stop at "pro abortion zealots" lol

[jameznyhc]

sorry, had to stop at "pro abortion zealots" lol

and what would you classify people who blame fox or oreilly for the murder?? lol .. of course you stopped reading your closed minded as hell ..its what keeps the left so ignorant ..their refusal to listen or ever debate the issues .. what a weak excuse

[Aspano]

Considering that you don't see the problem in calling someone a "pro-abortion zealot," i think this is a case of the pot calling kettle black.

[jameznyhc]

Considering that you don't see the problem in calling someone a "pro-abortion zealot," i think this is a case of the pot calling kettle black.

ok lets debate that what would you call these people who blame fox and oreilly? .. this is partial birth late term abortion proponents .. americans by 73% consider murder .. even your moderate pro choicers are horrified by late term abortion ..

A zealot is someone is is fantacially committed to a cause .. why is that such a bad slur?

[ShaE]

and what would you classify people who blame fox or oreilly for the murder?? lol ..
extremely misguided. he's not responsible for the guy's murder, the guy who shot him is.

[ShaE]

i'm pretty sure the issue is not with the word "zealot", it's "pro abortion", which we have discussed many times over already, is a retarded term.

[jameznyhc]

i'm pretty sure the issue is not with the word "zealot", it's "pro abortion", which we have discussed many times over already, is a retarded term.

no it really isnt cause i cant be pro-life if i support capital punishment or war .. so i definitly am anti abortion more than im pro life ..

again pro -choice is a retarded term .. every one who believes in making choices is pro choice lol

[ShaE]

no it really isnt cause i cant be pro-life if i support capital punishment or war .. so i definitly am anti abortion more than im pro life ..

again pro -choice is a retarded term .. every one who believes in making choices is pro choice lol
not if they're aware of what topic the term is referring to, given the context :wallbang

if you're having a discussion about abortion, and somebody uses the term pro choice, i'm fairly certain you're aware they're not not trying to say "i believe in making choices!"

and pro abortion is not accurate, b/c not everybody that believes a woman has a right to choose, is "FOR" abortion. they may detest abortion, but the question does not relate to whether or not one is for/against abortion.

it's whether they are for/against a woman's right to choose.

last time i'm explaining that.


what's the matter?nothing to say to my last comment? you surprised I don't AGREE that bill o'reilly is responsible? that i'm not going to blame a tv personality for a whacko shooting up a church?

"how narrow minded i am" lmfao.

[jameznyhc]

yes we know pro-choice sounds better than pro-abortion .. its whitewashing .. cause everyone knows you would only apply the term pro-choice to abortion ..when in fact it has nothing to do with abortion

[ShaE]

no. to call somebody pro abortion when they are pro choice, is inaccurate.
they may be entirely against abortion, but do not believe the gov't has the right to bar women from having them.
calling somebody like that "pro abortion" is not whitewashing, it's inaccurate, 100%.

but you're not great w/ words anyway, not surprising.

[ShaE]

another example, let's say somebody is against euthanasia. they do not like the practice, they believe it's wrong, but they ALSO believe a citizen has a right to choose death if he/she is terminally ill and of sound mind.

they are against the practice, but for an individual's ability to choose for themselves, if you called them "pro death" you'd be 100% wrong. they're not FOR death, they're for somebody's right TO CHOOSE DEATH for themselves.

same as somebody who is against abortion, for FOR a woman's right to choose one for herself.

i don't understand how it can be any clearer.

[jameznyhc]

another example, let's say somebody is against euthanasia. they do not like the practice, they believe it's wrong, but they ALSO believe a citizen has a right to choose death if he/she is terminally ill and of sound mind.

they are against the practice, but for an individual's ability to choose for themselves, if you called them "pro death" you'd be 100% wrong. they're not FOR death, they're for somebody's right TO CHOOSE DEATH for themselves.

same as somebody who is against abortion, for FOR a woman's right to choose one for herself.

i don't understand how it can be any clearer.

but there are plenty of women who are pro abortion and go thru the procedure 2, 3 or 4 times ..like its birth control ... again pro choice sounds nicer .. whats the definition of choice? .. everybody pro choice ..you can not deny that

[ShaE]

but there are plenty of women who are pro abortion and go thru the procedure 2, 3 or 4 times ..like its birth control ... again pro choice sounds nicer .. whats the definition of choice? .. everybody pro choice ..you can not deny that


so now you're pro abortion if you have more than one abortion? are you making up definitions as you go along? no, pro choice does not sound nicer, it's more accurate.

i , for one, am not ashamed to say I am pro choice, and i don't think it's shameful that abortion is practiced. if i thought "pro abortion" accurately described my stance, i would call myself it, but it doesn't. there would be no reason to find a "nicer" term, I only care about an ACCURATE term.

no matter WHAT you call it, you're not going to change anyone's mind about abortion that way. as if calling your stance by a "nicer" name is going to get pro-lifers to change sides? lol

the abortion debate isn't swayed by semantics and advertising. you're not going to dissuade me from being pro choice by calling me PRO DEATH, PRO ABORTION, BABY KILLER! and you're not going to dissuade pro lifers from their position by calling the opposite side "pro choice" or something of the like.

it's not about word choice. and if you believe what you believe, you don't care how it "sounds".

everybody is not pro choice b/c like i said, we all understand the term's context in an abortion discussion. it does not mean "oh, gosh, i'm ALL FOR ANY OLD CHOICE". IT MEANS i am for a woman's right to choose to have an abortion.

are you going to deny that we understand those specifics? lol

[Aspano]

Of course the bad wording is pro-abortion, not zealot. You can't be serious. It's unbelievable that people can mesh together letting someone have the choice of getting an abortion, and saying yes to abortions. I know plenty of people who believe in the right to choose whether or not someone can have an abortion, yet would never EVER think of having one. What would you call those people?

As for the rest of the nonsense you're spewing, that stuff isn't really worth a response.

[Benny B]

ill play devils advocate here... lol

i see both sides of the story.. do i personally feel that the wording should be pro-abortion. yes.. do i understand why they prefer choice.. yes.. but this is the same thing as when myself james alex and everyone else who is against gay marriage are homophobes or one supported the war being "pro-war" this arguement goes both ways on many issues.. and its a distaste that goes both ways..

the difference is.. i could careless what something thinks i am.. because at the end of the day.. what they say doesnt effect who i am and what i believe...

[Aspano]

The pro-war term i'm not sure how that applies here - but who calls you a homophobe for being anti-gay marriage? Do you call them out for being retarded?

[metfan85]

Aspano are you sure you know the case you're commenting on? This doctor that is central to the story crushed the skulls of 60,000 babies right before birth. Not a collection of cells, but actual humans that were able to live outside the womb.

Defending someone that has crushed 60,000 skulls to suck their brains out before birth should be considered zealous on abortion.

[Benny B]

The pro-war term i'm not sure how that applies here - but who calls you a homophobe for being anti-gay marriage? Do you call them out for being retarded?

what i mean is if you just happened to support the iraq war or a specific war for specified reason time and time again you will be callled PRO-WAR because of your CHOICE to support a SPECIFIC war.

hence i would be pro choice of war not PRO WAR

as for being called homophobe or ANTI-GAY or whatever the case for being against Gay marriage it happens time and time again.. its not that we are ANTI gay or a homophobe or anyhting else.. we just happen to not support gay marriage. but on the flipside feel they are entitled to civil unions. so that would not make us anti gay or homophobe or whatever else we are called..

every single arguement where there is a "side" to be taken .. whoever supports a specific issue is all of a sudden callled PRO this or PRO that. instead of being called PRO choice...

[metfan85]

that guy is burning in hell right now for doing this to innocent babies.

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fuckin animals sick animals to defend something like this saying it's legal. it was legal to kill jews in an oven in nazi germany. sick justification guys. have to love the moral relativism

[ShaE]

The pro-war term i'm not sure how that applies here - but who calls you a homophobe for being anti-gay marriage? Do you call them out for being retarded?
i've never called somebody a homophobe for being against gay marriage, i realize you can oppose it and not necessarily be homophobic. that's simple.

[Aspano]

Aspano are you sure you know the case you're commenting on? This doctor that is central to the story crushed the skulls of 60,000 babies right before birth. Not a collection of cells, but actual humans that were able to live outside the womb.

Defending someone that has crushed 60,000 skulls to suck their brains out before birth should be considered zealous on abortion.

dude, im not defending someone or even referencing the case. I'm saying the term "pro-abortion" is bullshit, and that's all.

[metfan85]

You said pro-abortion zealot is a bullshit term. And the people defending him are nothing more than pro-abortion zealots, I didn't say you were defending him just asking if you were ignorant about what he actually did.

[ShaE]

regardless, the term is still bullshit. nobody is "pro abortion", nobody delights in and wishes there were more abortions.