The Day Israel Attacked the USA

[hightide85]

This is for all of you people that have their penises firmly inside Israel's ass. And for Beck that mentions 911 every 5 seconds. I think you guys have your blinders on. Read this..maybe you'll see why just about everyone I know is pretty F'n sick of our blind support for them. This is a portion...the rest is at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

USS Liberty incident
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The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a U.S. Navy intelligence ship, USS Liberty, in international waters about 12.5 nautical miles (23 km) from the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, north of El Arish, by Israeli fighter planes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967.

It occurred during the Six-Day War, a conflict between Israel and the Arab states of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The attack killed 34 U.S. servicemen and wounded at least 173. The attack was the second deadliest against a U.S. Naval vessel since the end of World War II, surpassed only by the Iraqi Exocet missile attack on the USS Stark on May 17, 1987.

Both the Israeli and American governments have conducted multiple inquiries into the incident, and have issued reports concluding that the attack was a tragic mistake, caused by confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty. These conclusions have been challenged from several fronts, most notably by an organization of Liberty survivors, as well as by some former high-ranking officials in the United States government. The matter is considered closed for purposes of Israeli-American relations, but remains controversial in the public debate.

Israel's official position remains to this day that the attack was an accident, claiming that it was assured by the United States that no U.S. ships were in the area. Israel has also claimed that its air and naval forces mistakenly identified Liberty as the Egyptian vessel El Quseir. Proponents of the accident explanation add that mistakes were inevitable and understandable in the tense atmosphere of the Six-Day War, and that no concrete motive existed for Israel to initiate a surprise attack against a country that was quickly becoming its most powerful and important ally.

Others claim that the attack was premeditated and deliberate; they note, among other things, that the Liberty was four times larger than the El Quseir, and was clearly designated with Latin rather than Arabic letters and numbers. Proponents of deliberate attack theory include the surviving Liberty crewmen, [1] and some former U.S. government officials, including then-CIA director Richard Helms and then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk as well as Admiral Thomas Hinman Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The United States and Israel exchanged diplomatic notes after several inquiries. Though the United States never officially accepted the Israeli explanation, it agreed to accept indemnities of $13 million, for damage and casualties.

The attack on the Liberty
USS Liberty was originally the 7,725-ton (light) civilian cargo ship Simmons Victory. She was acquired by the United States Navy, converted to an Auxiliary Technical Research Ship (AGTR), and began her first deployment in 1965, to waters off the west coast of Africa. She carried out several more operations during the next two years. During the Six-Day War between Israel and the Arab nations, she was sent to collect electronic intelligence in the eastern Mediterranean.

On June 4, 1967, the day before the start of the Six-Day War, Israel asked if the United States had any ships in the region[citation needed]. The United States responded that it did not — which was in fact the case[citation needed], since the Liberty was just entering the Mediterranean Sea at this time. In addition, five messages had been sent by the U.S. Navy to the Liberty, warning it to come no closer than 100 nautical miles (185 km) to the Sinai coast. These messages were not received.

On June 5, at the start of the war, General Yitzhak Rabin (then IDF Chief of Staff) informed Commander Ernest Carl Castle, the American Naval Attache in Tel Aviv, that Israel would defend its coast with every means at its disposal, including sinking unidentified ships; thus the Americans should either reveal which ships it had in the area, or remove them. Nevertheless, the United States did not give Israel any information about the Liberty.[2] At that time the Liberty was already in the eastern Mediterranean. As war broke out Captain William L. McGonagle of the Liberty immediately asked Vice Admiral William I. Martin at the U.S. 6th Fleet headquarters to send a destroyer to accompany the Liberty and serve as its armed escort and as an auxiliary communications center.

The following day, June 6, Admiral Martin replied: “Liberty is a clearly marked United States ship in international waters, not a participant in the conflict and not a reasonable subject for attack by any nation. Request denied.” He promised, however, that in the unlikely event of an inadvertent attack, jet fighters from the Sixth Fleet could be overhead in ten minutes.

During the morning of the attack, early June 8, the ship was overflown by several Israeli Air Force (IAF) aircraft. Their exact number and type is disputed; at least one was a Nord Noratlas "flying boxcar" (claimed by the survivors and confirmed by Israel); a photograph shows a C-47 Dakota[citation needed] and other reports speak about Mirage III jet fighters. At least some of those flybys were from a close range. In fact, at 6:00 a.m. Sinai (GMT +2) time that morning, Israel confirmed that a Nord Noratlas identified the ship as the USS Liberty.[citation needed] Many Liberty crewmen gave testimony that one of the aircraft flew so close to Liberty that its propellers rattled the deck plating of the ship, and the pilots waved to the crew of Liberty, and the crewmen waved back.

At this time, the ship was readying to turn south towards the coast of the Sinai Peninsula from its previous eastern direction. It would then turn east and patrol at 5 knots (9 km/h) in international waters, 13 nautical miles (23 km) off the Sinai Peninsula near El-Arish, just outside Egypt's territorial waters. At about 2 p.m. the Liberty was attacked by several IAF aircraft, possibly two or three Mirage IIIs, carrying cannon and rockets, followed by Dassault Mysteres carrying napalm. After a series of passes an Israeli pilot, who wondered why the Liberty had not returned fire, made a close pass and noted that the ship had Western (not Arabic) lettering. Rabin immediately feared that the ship was Soviet, ordered the planes and a three torpedo boat squadron, which had been ordered into the area, to withhold fire pending positive identification of the ship, and sent in two helicopters to search for survivors. However, although the order was recorded in the ship's log, the commander of the torpedo boat squadron claimed never to have received it.[3]


Liberty turns to evade Israeli torpedo boats.About twenty minutes after the aircraft attack, the ship was approached by three torpedo boats bearing Israeli flags and identification signs. Initially, McGonagle, who perceived that the torpedo boats "were approaching the ship in a torpedo launch attitude,"[1] ordered a machine gun to engage the boats. After recognizing the Israeli standard and seeing apparent Morse code signalling attempts by one of the boats (but being unable to see what was being sent, due to the smoke of the fire started by the earlier aircraft attack), McGonagle gave the order to cease fire. This order was apparently misunderstood in the confusion, and two heavy machine guns opened fire. Subsequently, the Israeli boats responded with fire and launched at least two torpedoes at Liberty (five according to the 1982 IDF History Department report). One hit Liberty on the starboard side forward of the superstructure, creating a large hole in what had been a former cargo hold converted to the ships research spaces, causing the majority of the casualties in the incident. The torpedo boats approached Liberty and strafed crewmen (including damage control parties and sailors preparing life rafts for launch) on deck. (See disputed details below.)

When the ship was confirmed to have been American, the torpedo boats returned to offer help; it was refused by the American ship. About three hours after the attack, Israel informed the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv about the incident and provided a helicopter to fly a U.S. naval attaché to the ship.

Though Liberty was severely damaged, with a 50-foot (15 m) hole and a twisted keel, her crew kept her afloat, and she was able to leave the area under her own power. She was escorted to Malta by units of the U.S. 6th Fleet and was there given interim repairs. After these were completed in July 1967, Liberty returned to the United States. She was decommissioned in June 1968 and struck from the Naval Vessel Register. Liberty was transferred to U.S. Maritime Administration (MARAD) in December 1970 and sold for scrap in 1973.

McGonagle received the Medal of Honor, the highest U.S. medal, for his actions. However, his is the only Medal of Honor not to be awarded by the U.S. President in a formal event. It was awarded at the Washington Navy Yard by the Secretary of the Navy.[4][5]

[DINO nYc]

1983 Beirut barracks bombing
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A mushroom cloud rises from the rubble of a U.S. barracks at Beirut International Airport after a suicide bomber drove a truck into its lobby and detonated it, collapsing the structure and killing 241 American servicemen.The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing was a major incident during the Lebanese Civil War. Two truck bombs struck buildings in Beirut housing U.S. and French members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon, killing hundreds of soldiers. The October 23, 1983, blasts led to the withdrawal of the international peacekeeping force from Lebanon, where they had been stationed since the Israeli invasion in 1982, and it is considered one of the first instances of suicide bombing.

The bombing
On October 23, 1983, around 6:20 am, a yellow Mercedes-Benz delivery truck drove to Beirut International Airport, where the 1st Battalion 8th Marines, under the U.S. 2nd Marine Division of the United States Marines, had set up its local headquarters. The truck turned onto an access road leading to the Marines' compound and circled a parking lot. The driver then accelerated and crashed through a barbed wire fence around the parking lot, passed between two sentry posts, crashed through a gate and barreled into the lobby of the Marine headquarters. The Marine sentries at the gate had loaded pistols but were not able to stop the driver even though they shot at him. According to one Marine, the driver was smiling as he sped past him.

The suicide bomber detonated his explosives, which were equivalent to 12,000 pounds (about 5,400kg) of TNT. The force of the explosion collapsed the four-story cinder-block building into rubble, crushing many inside.

About 20 seconds later, an identical attack occurred against the barracks of the French Third Company of the Sixth French Parachute Infantry Regiment. Another suicide bomber drove his truck down a ramp into the building's underground parking garage and detonated his bomb, leveling the headquarters.

Death toll
Rescue efforts continued for days. While the rescuers were at times hindered by sniper fire, some survivors were pulled from the rubble and airlifted to the RAF hospital in Cyprus or to U.S. and German hospitals in West Germany [1].

The death toll was 241 American servicemen: 220 Marines, 18 Navy personnel and 3 Army soldiers. Sixty Americans were injured . In the attack on the French barracks, 58 paratroopers were killed and 15 injured. In addition, the elderly Lebanese custodian of the Marines' building was killed in the first blast. [1] The wife and four children of a Lebanese janitor at the French building also were killed.[2]

This was the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima (2,500 in one day) of World War II. The attack remains the deadliest post-World War II attack on Americans overseas.

[JayDiddy]

Your reply to Israel secretly attacking America is posting America being attacked in Beirut? I dont see how thats a rebuttal.

[Defekted]

So are you comparing or equating the two? cause i think that would be serving Hightide's point

[hightide85]

You people don't get it, do you? McFly...Hello?????? Anybody home????

Why is it whenever Israel does ANYTHING...that it's fine? Just curious. You people think all arabs are terrorists? Israel is DESTROYING A CITY!!!! I just don't get you people and your way of thinking. How much is enough for Israel?? How fucking much do we have to take? How much support? WE ARE AMERICANS!! Not Israelis. Fucking ridiculous..

[Bekim...]

highside an arab terrorist group flew a plane into the WTC. an arab terrorsit group killed 240 marines. they bomed london, our embassay in africa and so on and so on and so on............ dont be stupid american bro

[Bekim...]

You people don't get it, do you? McFly...Hello?????? Anybody home????

Why is it whenever Israel does ANYTHING...that it's fine? Just curious. You people think all arabs are terrorists? Israel is DESTROYING A CITY!!!! I just don't get you people and your way of thinking. How much is enough for Israel?? How fucking much do we have to take? How much support? WE ARE AMERICANS!! Not Israelis. Fucking ridiculous..

they are destroying a city just like we are destroying a city in iraq its called fighting terror you fucking mook, shut up already seriously. America loves and dies for Israel don't ever forget that.

[Studz]

they are destroying a city just like we are destroying a city in iraq its called fighting terror you fucking mook, shut up already seriously. America loves and dies for Israel don't ever forget that.

Its not fighting terror beck.. Bro the more u talk like this the more i question ur intelegence.

ARAB is a language many countries. Just like english is a languge and spanish is a lanquage.

SO u are telling me if a bunch of cubans bomb the us your gonna hate argentians and columbians as well. And destroying a city isnt fighting terror its creating future terrorists.

[Defekted]

they are destroying a city just like we are destroying a city in iraq its called fighting terror you fucking mook, shut up already seriously. America loves and dies for Israel don't ever forget that.

lol,

Ive never heard such a Pro-Israeli Albanian in my life.....its like some wierd hybrid.



you know your boy beck, regardless of what goes on here

[JayDiddy]

highside an arab terrorist group flew a plane into the WTC. an arab terrorsit group killed 240 marines. they bomed london, our embassay in africa and so on and so on and so on............ dont be stupid american bro

k.. now go back before that - WHY are they doing this?

[hightide85]

they are destroying a city just like we are destroying a city in iraq its called fighting terror you fucking mook, shut up already seriously. America loves and dies for Israel don't ever forget that.

hahahahaha wow you've really lost it now!

"fighting terror" fga;hdfjhaksfg;kkf

oh and beck...tell me....how does the Kool Aid taste?????

[ghb]

I highly doubt that Israel would purposely attack the ship of one of their hugest allies, it was an accident, the same way we accidently killed Canadian troops & other instances of friendly fire. To compare this to terrorist attacks that are done as a result of a holy war is retarded.

[DINO nYc]

Your reply to Israel secretly attacking America is posting America being attacked in Beirut? I dont see how thats a rebuttal.

He's quoting an incident that occurred in 1967 to back up an argument that "everyone he knows is pretty F'n sick of our blind support for Israel". I wonder if he and everybody he 'knows" were even born when this happend???

I merely took the liberty of quoting an incident that happend in 1983 to show him why some people may hate Hizbullah.

[DINO nYc]

So are you comparing or equating the two? cause i think that would be serving Hightide's point

Please see above post.

[ghb]

k.. now go back before that - WHY are they doing this?

Maybe because they’re demented dirty nightshirt wearing religious fanatics who read their Koran & interpret it to mean jihad & they’re only goal is to kill or convert the infidel.

[JayDiddy]

highside an arab terrorist group flew a plane into the WTC. an arab terrorsit group killed 240 marines. they bomed london, our embassay in africa and so on and so on and so on............ dont be stupid american bro

So then tell Bush and Olmert to go after Osama if they care so much about the attacks. Osama is chillin somewhere 5 years after the attack, still releasing tapes. The greatest nation gets slapped in the face and cant catch the killer. You have so much hatred toward Arabs but I would be more pissed that our "defender" hasnt caught the culprit.

US is so quick to help out Israel - how come I dont hear about Israel helping getting Osama or helping us in Iraq

[hightide85]

He's quoting an incident that occurred in 1967 to back up an argument that "everyone he knows is pretty F'n sick of our blind support for Israel". I wonder if he and everybody he 'knows" were even born when this happend???

I merely took the liberty of quoting an incident that happend in 1983 to show him why some people may hate Hizbullah.

I totally understand why people hate Hezbollah. That's not my arguement.

[Defekted]

I totally understand why people hate Hezbollah. That's not my arguement.

you havent noticed yet? by criticising Israel you BECOME a terrorist sympathizer,

[Defekted]

Its called chewing gum and walking at the same time, not hard to do....condeming both is possible, i swear

both can be wrong, both can be complete idiots in how they operate, kill, uphold hatred for the other, take land, occupy, teach kids hate, torture, etc etc etc

[ghb]

US is so quick to help out Israel - how come I dont hear about Israel helping getting Osama or helping us in Iraq

Israel going into Iraq or Pakistan or Afghanistan to help would just stir up more trouble around the rest of the arab nutcases which is what the US does not need right now. They have “helped” the US, if they hadn’t bombed Iraq’s nuclear facilities who knows how the first Iraqi war would’ve turned out, they also helped by providing intelligence, training our soldier in urban mudhut to mudhut fighting. In addition when scuds were fired at Israel during Desert Storm the US asked them not to retaliate in order to not instigate the situation first.

Maybe the reason you don't hear about it is because hezbollah.org doesn't publicize it.