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Cong. Dingell Refuses to Say He’s Against Hezbollah
RJC Calls for Dingell’s Reprimand

August 1, 2006, Washington, D.C...The RJC expressed outrage and dismay at remarks made by Congressman John Dingell (D-MI-15) during a television interview Sunday night on Detroit television station WDIV.
Rep. Dingell refused to choose between Israel and Hezbollah, instead insisting that “I don’t take sides for or against Hezbollah or for or against Israel” in the current conflict. According to his remarks, the U.S. should negotiate with “both sides” to stop the violence.

RJC Executive Director Matthew Brooks said, “It is outrageous that a member of the United States House of Representatives would refuse to denounce Hezbollah, an organization on the State Department’s list of terrorist groups that is responsible for more American deaths than any other terrorist group except al-Qaeda. To be neutral between Israel and Hezbollah is like saying there is no distinction between the U.S. and al-Qaeda in the war on terrorism. As Rep. Dingell apparently believes that Israel should negotiate with Hezbollah, does he also believe that the U.S. should negotiate with Osama Bin Laden?”

Hezbollah’s history of terrorism includes the kidnapping, torture, and murder of U.S. Marine Col. William R. Higgins in 1988 and of CIA Beirut station chief William Buckley in 1984. Hezbollah is responsible for some 30 kidnappings of Westerners in Lebanon, as well as the April 1983 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Beirut that killed 63 people (including 17 Americans) and the October 1983 truck bombing at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. servicemen. In 1985, during their hijacking of TWA Flight 847, Hezbollah terrorists beat and shot U.S. Navy Seabee Diver Robert Stethem and dumped his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac. Brooks said, “When a senior Democratic member of the House can show such a lack of understanding of the enemy this country faces, it says much about the Democratic Party’s weakness when it comes to our foreign policy and national defense.”

The RJC calls on the Democrat leadership, and particularly Rep. Dingell’s Democrat colleagues in the Michigan delegations in the House and Senate, to reprimand Rep. Dingell for his remarks. “It is unconscionable that Rep. Dingell refused to take sides between democracy and terrorism. The choice is that simple, the choice is that clear,” Brooks concluded.

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Cong. Dingell Refuses to Say He’s Against Hezbollah
RJC Calls for Dingell’s Reprimand

August 1, 2006, Washington, D.C...The RJC expressed outrage and dismay at remarks made by Congressman John Dingell (D-MI-15) during a television interview Sunday night on Detroit television station WDIV.
Rep. Dingell refused to choose between Israel and Hezbollah, instead insisting that “I don’t take sides for or against Hezbollah or for or against Israel” in the current conflict. According to his remarks, the U.S. should negotiate with “both sides” to stop the violence.

RJC Executive Director Matthew Brooks said, “It is outrageous that a member of the United States House of Representatives would refuse to denounce Hezbollah, an organization on the State Department’s list of terrorist groups that is responsible for more American deaths than any other terrorist group except al-Qaeda. To be neutral between Israel and Hezbollah is like saying there is no distinction between the U.S. and al-Qaeda in the war on terrorism. As Rep. Dingell apparently believes that Israel should negotiate with Hezbollah, does he also believe that the U.S. should negotiate with Osama Bin Laden?”

Hezbollah’s history of terrorism includes the kidnapping, torture, and murder of U.S. Marine Col. William R. Higgins in 1988 and of CIA Beirut station chief William Buckley in 1984. Hezbollah is responsible for some 30 kidnappings of Westerners in Lebanon, as well as the April 1983 bombing of the U.S. embassy in Beirut that killed 63 people (including 17 Americans) and the October 1983 truck bombing at the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 U.S. servicemen. In 1985, during their hijacking of TWA Flight 847, Hezbollah terrorists beat and shot U.S. Navy Seabee Diver Robert Stethem and dumped his body onto the Beirut airport tarmac. Brooks said, “When a senior Democratic member of the House can show such a lack of understanding of the enemy this country faces, it says much about the Democratic Party’s weakness when it comes to our foreign policy and national defense.”

The RJC calls on the Democrat leadership, and particularly Rep. Dingell’s Democrat colleagues in the Michigan delegations in the House and Senate, to reprimand Rep. Dingell for his remarks. “It is unconscionable that Rep. Dingell refused to take sides between democracy and terrorism. The choice is that simple, the choice is that clear,” Brooks concluded.

[Studz]

The boston tea party was a terorist organiztion according to the Birtish History books. They murdered british soldiers and british officials. They also murdered and butchered british supporters. They terrorized british citizens living in the colonies. Highjacked britsh commerce ships And burnt british marines alive in there baracks. Sounds kinda familiar.

[TheHipHopBillGates]

And I bet Lieberman and Biden want to lead the negotiations.

[NYDJ USA]

If we want to have PEACE, we have to talk/negotiate with any one that matter.
You CAN NOT reach peace by shooting or killing each other.

Remember, before the U.S didn't want negotiate with Arafat either, then they changed their policy, that made that HISTORICAL PEACE AGREEMENT >>>YASER ARAFAT. MENAHEN BEGIN & JIMMY CARTER.

Menahen Begin during the late 40's and Early 50's also labeled as A TERRORIST by the BRITISH, he was just like what you called TERRORIST too that time, he blew up so many things like HOTEL that many civilian killed.
And he finally became the PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL and MADE PEACE WITH THE PALESTINIAN (FATAH/ARAFAT).

[Micha]

Hey i am all for peace (obviously by my posts).....but im starting to think its impossible. Why, well because of what we are dealing with. We will never ever ever be able to talk/negotiate/etc our way with terrorists it seems. But at least we can act civil and peacefully with those who deserve it. And I am still against killing innocent life. But I also understand that innocent people are going to die as a result of war. It's not like we started this war (or did we?) we were kind of forced into it...or no?

[NYDJ USA]

Hey i am all for peace (obviously by my posts).....but im starting to think its impossible. Why, well because of what we are dealing with. We will never ever ever be able to talk/negotiate/etc our way with terrorists it seems. But at least we can act civil and peacefully with those who deserve it. And I am still against killing innocent life. But I also understand that innocent people are going to die as a result of war. It's not like we started this war (or did we?) we were kind of forced into it...or no?

That happen when we all trapped in that CYCLE OF VIOLENT (DEVIL CIRCLE) that now it become kike the DOWNWARD SPIRAL....where everytimes we reaching to the smallest LOOP that we thought we finally can GET OUT FROM IT.
Then BANG...there we go again DEJA VU...we all get sucked to it with even BIGGER LOOP again.

They killed our Innocent people, and we retaliated but not to those people that commited to the crimed, instead we killed and destroy the people that have nothing to do with it (Like the Iraq War...that we should just go after Osama and his Alqaeda not Invaded Iraq).
So can we blamed those Iraqis Insurgents that retaliated to what we did to their Country & People ??? >>>> That the Bush Administration Mislead the WORLD with FALSH ACCUSASTION about WMD >>> and HE INVADED & DESTROY IRAQ (The Country and the people). That not about WMD or he tried to help the Iraq people, that just a cover up for HIS OWN PERSONAL VENDETA AGGAIST SADDAM HUSAIN.That so many times he said that publicly "He (Saddam) tried to kill my DAD".

Now about Israel & Hizbollah both side attacking each other, then instead of just figting among themself.
The Israelis just BRUTALLY ONSLAUGHT LEBANON (The Country & The People), they destroy The country Infra Structures, after that The Israeli Goverment asked the Lebanese people to flee/leave their village, because they will continue the ONSLAUGH. Where and How all of those Lebanese people can go, to the saver ground in the North but HOW ??? When most of their HOMES, TRANSPORTATIONS, ROADS & BRIDGES ARE DESTROYED already by The Israelis Military, and those people are poor and now they have no money at all.
Now 500.000 (half of million ) Lebanese people lost their home, and many of them have their family KILLED & WOUNDED.

Can we blame if some day those people will RETALIATE to THIS PRESENT ISRAEL TERRORIST GOVERMENT, for what they did to them and their COUNTRY ????

Everytimes we into a crisis we always deal with weapons intead of DIALOG.
That is why we all TRAPPED in that CYCLE OF VIOLENCE...it just GO ROUND AND AROUND again and again.

[admin]

The boston tea party was a terorist organiztion according to the Birtish History books. They murdered british soldiers and british officials. They also murdered and butchered british supporters. They terrorized british citizens living in the colonies. Highjacked britsh commerce ships And burnt british marines alive in there baracks. Sounds kinda familiar.

well this is America not UK, plus that shit happened years ago. We should not negotiate with Hezbollah or Hamas.

[NYDJ USA]

well this is America not UK, plus that shit happened years ago. We should not negotiate with Hezbollah or Hamas.

Then we all will be TRAPPED in that CYCLE OF VIOLENCE FOREVER.
And more and more innocent civilians from all sides will be the victims from all of the VIOLENT THAT NEVER COME TO AN END.

[admin]

Then we all will be TRAPPED in that CYCLE OF VIOLENCE FOREVER.
And more and more innocent civilians from all sides will be the victims from all of the VIOLENT THAT NEVER COME TO AN END.

not true at all, if you negotiate with one then others will form. Besides fuck those animals, they are not people.

[Defekted]

Reality:

when two sides are in conflict, and one cannot defeat the other (vice versa), then a negotiation has to take place in order to have a cease fire....

Hezbullah already gave permission to the Lebanese government to negotiate on its behalf, and Israel will be going through a third party mediator (whether it be the UN with the US leading)... to broker a deal.....

some people are living in a dream world if you think Hezbullah is going to be wiped off the map by Israel bullets and bombs.....

[Micha]

That happen when we all trapped in that CYCLE OF VIOLENT (DEVIL CIRCLE) that now it become kike the DOWNWARD SPIRAL....where everytimes we reaching to the smallest LOOP that we thought we finally can GET OUT FROM IT.
Then BANG...there we go again DEJA VU...we all get sucked to it with even BIGGER LOOP again.

They killed our Innocent people, and we retaliated but not to those people that commited to the crimed, instead we killed and destroy the people that have nothing to do with it (Like the Iraq War...that we should just go after Osama and his Alqaeda not Invaded Iraq).
So can we blamed those Iraqis Insurgents that retaliated to what we did to their Country & People ??? >>>> That the Bush Administration Mislead the WORLD with FALSH ACCUSASTION about WMD >>> and HE INVADED & DESTROY IRAQ (The Country and the people). That not about WMD or he tried to help the Iraq people, that just a cover up for HIS OWN PERSONAL VENDETA AGGAIST SADDAM HUSAIN.That so many times he said that publicly "He (Saddam) tried to kill my DAD".

Now about Israel & Hizbollah both side attacking each other, then instead of just figting among themself.
The Israelis just BRUTALLY ONSLAUGHT LEBANON (The Country & The People), they destroy The country Infra Structures, after that The Israeli Goverment asked the Lebanese people to flee/leave their village, because they will continue the ONSLAUGH. Where and How all of those Lebanese people can go, to the saver ground in the North but HOW ??? When most of their HOMES, TRANSPORTATIONS, ROADS & BRIDGES ARE DESTROYED already by The Israelis Military, and those people are poor and now they have no money at all.
Now 500.000 (half of million ) Lebanese people lost their home, and many of them have their family KILLED & WOUNDED.

Can we blame if some day those people will RETALIATE to THIS PRESENT ISRAEL TERRORIST GOVERMENT, for what they did to them and their COUNTRY ????

Everytimes we into a crisis we always deal with weapons intead of DIALOG.
That is why we all TRAPPED in that CYCLE OF VIOLENCE...it just GO ROUND AND AROUND again and again.

Hey I hear you and I feel the same way. But I also feel like we are the minority who thinks like this. And I am starting to lose hope

How do you argue for peace when everyone around you seems to be against it?

Or maybe I got brainwashed yesterday from having a political discussion with my family. Because I also feel like terrorists are the minority (I hope). And by fighting every country that "harbors" terrorists, we are creating more conflict. There has got to be a way to go about this differently....

[Micha]

some people are living in a dream world if you think Hezbullah is going to be wiped off the map by Israel bullets and bombs.....

Of course not. But do you trust Hezbullah even if a negotiation happens?

[Eleni]

Reality:

when two sides are in conflict, and one cannot defeat the other (vice versa), then a negotiation has to take place in order to have a cease fire....

Hezbullah already gave permission to the Lebanese government to negotiate on its behalf, and Israel will be going through a third party mediator (whether it be the UN with the US leading)... to broker a deal.....

some people are living in a dream world if you think Hezbullah is going to be wiped off the map by Israel bullets and bombs.....

thats reality when you are dealing with human beings.

You cannot negotiate with TERRORISTS. Under any circumstance.
Hezbullah are nothing but filthy ass terrorist pigs, the lowest form of species on this planet, they have no respect for their OWN lives let alone anyone else's...what's even worse is that theyre pussies...they cant even FIGHT fair, instead they dress up like regular people and use dirty tactics...oh SUREEE let's negotiate with them! lol Seems like a good idea!

They gave permission? As if the Lebanese government has ever been or will ever be in "charge" at any given time...Just because they're using sheep to send a message doesn't change the fact that its a message from a TERRORIST. You know what? I dont believe that they will be happy with ANYthing, you cant bargain with an animal they dont know the difference...

While we're at it why dont we broker a deal with the KKK as well? Give'em some of what they want...Come on now.

[TheHipHopBillGates]

thats reality when you are dealing with human beings.

You cannot negotiate with TERRORISTS. Under any circumstance.
Hezbullah are nothing but filthy ass terrorist pigs, the lowest form of species on this planet, they have no respect for their OWN lives let alone anyone else's...what's even worse is that theyre pussies...they cant even FIGHT fair, instead they dress up like regular people and use dirty tactics...oh SUREEE let's negotiate with them! lol Seems like a good idea!

They gave permission? As if the Lebanese government has ever been or will ever be in "charge" at any given time...Just because they're using sheep to send a message doesn't change the fact that its a message from a TERRORIST. You know what? I dont believe that they will be happy with ANYthing, you cant bargain with an animal they dont know the difference...

While we're at it why dont we broker a deal with the KKK as well? Give'em some of what they want...Come on now.

What exactly is a fair fight to you? Two sides line up on each end of a football field ?

[Eleni]

What exactly is a fair fight to you? Two sides line up on each end of a football field ?

This response makes absolutely NO SENSE, am I into football? Do I play sports? How do you figure that I, ELENI, would prefer a football field or ANY sports related game for a "fair" fight?!?!?!?
and where did I say anything about this having any chance at being a FAIR fight...all evidence to the contrary.

And after all that has been said you only chose MY post to respond to?

I dont tolerate my friends speaking DOWN to me, I have no idea why you would think its acceptable. Next time you feel the need to patronize someone go ahead and find yourself a HERB to speak to. Thank you.

[JayDiddy]

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Some consider Israel a terrorist also so if we dont want to negotiate with terrorists then we should butt our noses out of the whole region.

[admin]

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

Some consider Israel a terrorist also so if we dont want to negotiate with terrorists then we should butt our noses out of the whole region.

so you consider them freedom fighters?

[Studz]

so you consider them freedom fighters?

They did free lebanon from isreal in 2000 so they technically are freedom fighters.

[admin]

They did free lebanon from isreal in 2000 so they technically are freedom fighters.

What about thousands of people they terrorized with suicide bombings and rockets.
OJ Simpson was an athlete, but after he murdered the 2 people most people refereed to him as a killer. What do you consider them, freedon fighters?