message posted by another user and im curious to see you're responses:
"Not to challenge you guys, but more to understand your perspective. I know that our world, especially the United States is known for excess., especially in food. We have super sized meals, all you can eat buffets, and super tasty and fattening candies and chocolates. These are extremes of a negative lifestyle. However, fitness/bodybuilding is taken the other extreme sometimes.
Basically you guys deprive yourself of tasty and sometimes natural foods which are meant to be enjoyed. Having a few Oreos now and then, alright. Having a nice slice or two of pumpkin pie with whipped creme for Thanksgiving, alright... but I see so many of you crave and really seem to freak out because you can't eat sweets. I understand during a bulking cycle you can loosen up a little bit., but basically you are tearing your bodies down through working out, and building them up with quality weight through low carbs/low sat. fats, and extremely high protein diets. Where does it end for you?
Ultimately we all grow all and come 60, 70, or 80 years old and lose all the muscle, all the definition we worked hard for, for so many decades, and in that process depriving ourselves of many tasty and satisfying meals and EVEN social situations (some bodybuilders social life suffers because they can't get their meals. etc), but at the same time not going OVERboard of course, and becoming obese. I KNOW that there are a few exceptions and some people look great and keep some of their muscle in their later years, but you don't see it too often. The body, like the mind gets old, and we all eventually die,, nobody is immortal.
I've always been a big supporter of balance and moderation, but it almost seems as most people involved in fitness/bodybuilding take things to the extreme: extreme amounts of protein, water, tryin to eat half a dozen small meals in a day. eating a carton of eggs (white) for one meal, etc. In bodybuilding it's even worse, especially "professional", with the contestants taking an incredible amount of steroids to get that thick freaky look, as well as the superior vascularity which helps bring out their cuts. I know not ALL bodybuilders are like this, but it could be classified as an extreme sport.
I understand the lifestyle promotes healthy living through diet and exercise, of course as long as you dont use anabolic enhancements (steroids, GH), but I see people get to extremely low levels of bodyfat purely for asthetic purposes.
Consider this thread more of a sociological inquiry than an attempt to start an argument. After all, I do the same thing often times, especially if I have to cut down or bulk, etc. But, sometimes I wonder if all the work is truly worth it. I mean, if health is a priority you could very well:
- eat 3 meals a day (breakfast, lunch, dinner), and have them be well rounded with grains, protein, veggies, fruit, etc.
- drink .5 gallon of water a day. this should provide sufficient fluids to flush out the kidneys and promote hydration
- having a dessert after lunch and dinner (I think as long as you are physically active and keep the metabolism high, these 2 treats won't have a tremendous effect on health)
- doing 20-30 mins of some sort of cardio activity a day to promote good respitatory circulation.
Maybe fitness/bodybuilding is a very extreme sport and it's very purpose is to make people extraordinary so when people look at him/her they say to themselves, "wow he must workout!" (lol I know this is from Dumb & Dumber). So I was wondering if you all agreed with this, or does this just become an obession where you aren't ever satisfied with the amount of weight you can lift, or the % of bodyfat you are. After all, if you want to be healthy you don't necessarily have to take these sort of extreme measures.
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