As iran developes nukes ...Obama wants to eliminate our own ..lol

[jameznyhc]

this guy is dreaming!! lol ..what a rookie!!!

Obama to Urge Elimination of Nuclear Weapons
By JEFF ZELENY
WASHINGTON, Oct. 1 — Senator Barack Obama will propose on Tuesday setting a goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons in the world, saying the United States should greatly reduce its stockpiles to lower the threat of nuclear terrorism, aides say.

In a speech at DePaul University in Chicago, Mr. Obama will add his voice to a plan endorsed earlier this year by a bipartisan group of former government officials from the cold war era who say the United States must begin building a global consensus to reverse a reliance on nuclear weapons that have become “increasingly hazardous and decreasingly effective.”

Mr. Obama, according to details provided by his campaign Monday, also will call for pursuing vigorous diplomatic efforts aimed at a global ban on the development, production and deployment of intermediate-range missiles.

“In 2009, we will have a window of opportunity to renew our global leadership and bring our nation together,” Mr. Obama is planning to say, according to an excerpt of remarks provided by his aides. “If we don’t seize that moment, we may not get another.”

His speech was to come one day after an announcement by the Bush administration that it had tripled the rate of dismantling nuclear weapons over the last year, putting the United States on track to reducing its stockpile of weapons by half by 2012.

The exact number of weapons being dismantled, like the overall stockpile, is secret, but officials said Monday that with the planned reductions, the total number of American nuclear weapons would be at the lowest levels since Dwight D. Eisenhower was president.

Under a 2002 treaty, the United States and Russia agreed to limit the number of operational nuclear weapons in their arsenals to between 1,700 and 2,200 by 2012, though that agreement did not address weapons in reserve stockpiles.

Mr. Obama, Democrat of Illinois, is seeking to draw attention to his foreign policy views with the approach of the fifth anniversary of the Congressional vote authorizing military action in Iraq. He is highlighting his early opposition to the war, which he argues is a sign of judgment that is more important than the number of years served in Washington.

Mr. Obama, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, often tells voters that the Iraq war has consumed American foreign policy to the detriment of its ability to address other threats facing the nation. In his speech on Tuesday, aides said, Mr. Obama will assert, as he has before, that the United States should not threaten terrorist training camps with nuclear weapons.

If elected, Mr. Obama plans to say, he will lead a global effort to secure nuclear weapons and material at vulnerable sites within four years. He also will pledge to end production of fissile material for weapons, agree not to build new weapons and remove any remaining nuclear weapons from hair-trigger alert.

In his speech, according to a campaign briefing paper, Mr. Obama also will call for using a combination of diplomacy and pressure to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and to eliminate North Korea’s nuclear weapons programs. Aides did not say what Mr. Obama intended to do if diplomacy and sanctions failed.

In setting a goal of eliminating nuclear weapons in the world, Mr. Obama is endorsing a call for “urgent new actions” to prevent a new nuclear era that was laid out in January in a commentary in The Wall Street Journal written by several former government officials. The authors of the article were George P. Shultz, secretary of state in the Reagan administration; Henry Kissinger, secretary of state in the Nixon and Ford administrations; William J. Perry, secretary of defense in the Clinton administration; and Sam Nunn, a former chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee

[janine9539]

is he serious with this

[jameznyhc]

guy is a joke when it comes to dealing with islamic fundamentalists..he wants to have a sit and chat with arminaJIHAD ..no conditions or concessions just a good ole debate lol!!!

[John Kennedy]

Jamez, Janine, did you even read the article?

His speech was to come one day after an announcement by the Bush administration that it had tripled the rate of dismantling nuclear weapons over the last year, putting the United States on track to reducing its stockpile of weapons by half by 2012.

The exact number of weapons being dismantled, like the overall stockpile, is secret, but officials said Monday that with the planned reductions, the total number of American nuclear weapons would be at the lowest levels since Dwight D. Eisenhower was president.

This is a concensus across the board and it makes sense. How do you increase your stockpiles while telling other countries to do the opposite, and expect them to listen to you?

[Defekted]

In a speech at DePaul University in Chicago, Mr. Obama will add his voice to a plan endorsed earlier this year by a bipartisan group of former government officials from the cold war era who say the United States must begin building a global consensus to reverse a reliance on nuclear weapons that have become “increasingly hazardous and decreasingly effective.”

this is the type of leadership and thinking we NEED in office, instead of making plans to fight a THIRD war in the middle east by a bunch of pussies who deffered when they were called to fight, we could be showing the world our new approach of reconciliation and mutual respect. We have a stockpile to destroy every planet in this solar system, what the fuck for?

[Defekted]

Jamez, Janine, did you even read the article?



This is a concensus across the board and it makes sense. How do you increase your stockpiles while telling other countries to do the opposite, and expect them to listen to you?

exactly right JK. Biggest hippocrates

[John Kennedy]

Plus I don't understand how you could post an article without reading past the 1st paragraph lol

[TheHipHopBillGates]

let me pose a question, is muslim control of nuclear weapons that serious an issue, should the WASP's be the only ones with that bargaining chip? The Skull & Bones Nuclear Party????

[jameznyhc]

let me pose a question, is muslim control of nuclear weapons that serious an issue, should the WASP's be the only ones with that bargaining chip? The Skull & Bones Nuclear Party????

Wasps? lol ..we have an italian catholic, a mormon, black man, and a woman as front runners ??? what country you living in son? .. besides bush has appointed more blacks and hispanics to positions of power than carter and clinton combined ..

Are you telling me iran having a nuke is not a serious issue..this is why you guys are so easy to ridicule because you have absolutly no understanding of the dangers of islamic fundamentalism ..

[Benny B]

FYI. Russia has the LARGEST stockpile of nuclear weapons...

as for telling people what they can or cannot do. and then go and building ours... i disagree with the primise of being a hypocrite.. but at the same time i agree with it.. only due to the fact that we have had these weapons for 50+ years.. we have shown we will not use them carelessly. when you have these countries trying to build and aquire nuclear weapons who in the same sentence say they want to wipe a country off the map i absolutely agree that we should not allow them to build and seek these weapons..

[TheHipHopBillGates]

Wasps? lol ..we have an italian catholic, a mormon, black man, and a woman as front runners ??? what country you living in son? .. besides bush has appointed more blacks and hispanics to positions of power than carter and clinton combined ..

Are you telling me iran having a nuke is not a serious issue..this is why you guys are so easy to ridicule because you have absolutly no understanding of the dangers of islamic fundamentalism ..

that'll mean something to me when they get elected, you forget that not only did they wack the only catholic president, but they wacked his brother too..........bush just appointed people for business reasons strictly.

I'm not saying I'm for Iran having a nuke, I felt that Iran was more of a concern then Iraq with Saddam, I'm just posing a question.......

[TheHipHopBillGates]

FYI. Russia has the LARGEST stockpile of nuclear weapons...

as for telling people what they can or cannot do. and then go and building ours... i disagree with the primise of being a hypocrite.. but at the same time i agree with it.. only due to the fact that we have had these weapons for 50+ years.. we have shown we will not use them carelessly. when you have these countries trying to build and aquire nuclear weapons who in the same sentence say they want to wipe a country off the map i absolutely agree that we should not allow them to build and seek these weapons..

using them on japan wasn't careless? the war was almost over, Truman just wanted to show his might.........and thats well documented.

[janine9539]

Jamez, Janine, did you even read the article?



This is a concensus across the board and it makes sense. How do you increase your stockpiles while telling other countries to do the opposite, and expect them to listen to you?

i read it but i do not feel confident enough that other countries will.
not to mention all the ones that are traded illegally

[CraftyVet16]

guy is a joke when it comes to dealing with islamic fundamentalists..he wants to have a sit and chat with arminaJIHAD ..no conditions or concessions just a good ole debate lol!!!

do you know that arminajihad is not even the #1 guy there, and you idiots vilafied this guy, his trip here was a great oppurtunity for us to reall reach the majority of irans population who believe it or not do not like this regime at all, and are very westernized people. but instead the moron president of columbia invites him and the attacks him.. sorry to tell you but president bush has alot more american blood on his hands then anyone

the one country in the middle east that a majority of the people would like a democracy is IRAN. and we had a golden oppurtunity to appeal to them when he was here and we blew it.

as for the article, so u are saying we need to stop everyone from building nukes but keep all of ours... yeah that works....

[TheHipHopBillGates]

do you know that arminajihad is not even the #1 guy there, and you idiots vilafied this guy, his trip here was a great oppurtunity for us to reall reach the majority of irans population who believe it or not do not like this regime at all, and are very westernized people. but instead the moron president of columbia invites him and the attacks him.. sorry to tell you but president bush has alot more american blood on his hands then anyone

the one country in the middle east that a majority of the people would like a democracy is IRAN. and we had a golden oppurtunity to appeal to them when he was here and we blew it.

as for the article, so u are saying we need to stop everyone from building nukes but keep all of ours... yeah that works....

he's a puppet that flys off at the mouth, that country is controlled by the religious, the guy from Columbia got him a few more fans though, nothing like bashing the guy before he even started speaking, how foolish, ridicule him in debate if you must.

[John Kennedy]

Wasps? lol ..we have an italian catholic, a mormon, black man, and a woman as front runners ??? what country you living in son? .. besides bush has appointed more blacks and hispanics to positions of power than carter and clinton combined ..

Are you telling me iran having a nuke is not a serious issue..this is why you guys are so easy to ridicule because you have absolutly no understanding of the dangers of islamic fundamentalism ..

So what do you think about Bush going forward with decreasing our stockpile of nukes by 2012? Why is Obama wrong but no mention of the man you support who agrees with him?

Jamez, janine, do you think that decreasing nukes to a couple of thousand means it will increase our chance of getting nuked? Instead of it being played as a bargaining chip for getting other countries to decrease or cease production of their own stockpiles?

THINK.

[jameznyhc]

So what do you think about Bush going forward with decreasing our stockpile of nukes by 2012? Why is Obama wrong but no mention of the man you support who agrees with him?

Jamez, janine, do you think that decreasing nukes to a couple of thousand means it will increase our chance of getting nuked? Instead of it being played as a bargaining chip for getting other countries to decrease or cease production of their own stockpiles?

THINK.

we dont know how many its secret.. im sure we will have enough to do major damage.. thats alot different than calling for an international ban that everyone will laugh at

[TheHipHopBillGates]

we dont know how many its secret.. im sure we will have enough to do major damage.. thats alot different than calling for an international ban that everyone will laugh at

Iran definitely has WMD's George Bush & Judith Miller told me so, lets go get them. Maybe we could put an Exxon right at the Strait of Hormuz.

[Benny B]

using them on japan wasn't careless? the war was almost over, Truman just wanted to show his might.........and thats well documented.

the outcome of that war you can say it now because we all can sit here and look at the past and decide was it right or wrong.. If we didnt drop them do we know if the war would have ended??? Nobody will ever know for certain if it would have or not.. to say the war was coming to an end, you really cant say that because all it takes is one lil action to spur the war into high gear again. So YES i think the U.S. has been careful with them since we have had them.

[TheHipHopBillGates]

the outcome of that war you can say it now because we all can sit here and look at the past and decide was it right or wrong.. If we didnt drop them do we know if the war would have ended??? Nobody will ever know for certain if it would have or not.. to say the war was coming to an end, you really cant say that because all it takes is one lil action to spur the war into high gear again. So YES i think the U.S. has been careful with them since we have had them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debate_...a_and_Nagasaki