lies and smears of the left wing...

[jameznyhc]

lol they tried to smear o'reilly last week, limbaugh this week.. rush had a military man on and they were discussing how the radical left relys on eroneous soldiers like jessie macbeth..he was a fake soldier, writing ablog for national review online, his accounts were about soldiers abusing iraqis, and women..he was a hero amongst the radical left who hate our military... so they must be reading the ncc board they clipped and cut remarks out of context ..the military backed rush up immediatly, and now Hillary looks like a hypocrite.. she slams a private citizen over comments that were manipulated , yet she wouldnt condemn move on about petraeus being a liar ... bad move




SENATE DEMOCRATS CONDEMN LIMBAUGH’S ATTACK ON OUR TROOPS
Tue Oct 02 2007 18:49:38 ET

Washington, DC—Senate Democrats today sent the following letter to Mark P. Mays, CEO of Clear Channel Communications, calling on him to publicly repudiate Rush Limbaugh’s characterization of troops who speak out against the Iraq war as “phony soldiers.” Despite recent Republican comments condemning verbal attacks on our troops, when given the opportunity to join us in signing this letter, not a single one did so.

The text of the letter is below and attached:

October 2, 2007

Mr. Mark P. Mays
CEO, Clear Channel Communications Inc.
200 East Basse Road
San Antonio, TX 78209

Dear Mr. Mays,

At the time we sign this letter, 3,808 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq, and another 28,009 have been wounded. 160,000 others awoke this morning on foreign sand, far from home, to face the danger and uncertainty of another day at war.

Although Americans of goodwill debate the merits of this war, we can all agree that those who serve with such great courage deserve our deepest respect and gratitude. That is why Rush Limbaugh’s recent characterization of troops who oppose the war as “phony soldiers” is such an outrage.

Our troops are fighting and dying to bring to others the freedoms that many take for granted. It is unconscionable that Mr. Limbaugh would criticize them for exercising the fundamentally American right to free speech. Mr. Limbaugh has made outrageous remarks before, but this affront to our soldiers is beyond the pale.

The military, like any community within the United States, includes members both for and against the war. Senior generals, such as General John Batiste and Paul Eaton, have come out against the war while others have publicly supported it. A December 2006 poll conducted by the Military Times found just 35 percent of service members approved of President Bush’s handling of the war in Iraq, compared to 42 percent who disapproved. From this figure alone, it is clear that Mr. Limbaugh’s insult is directed at thousands of American service members.

Active and retired members of our armed forces have a unique perspective on the war and offer a valuable contribution to our national debate. In August, seven soldiers wrote an op-ed expressing their concern with the current strategy in Iraq. Tragically, since then, two of those seven soldiers have made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq.

Thousands of active troops and veterans were subjected to Mr. Limbaugh’s unpatriotic and indefensible comments on your broadcast. We trust you will agree that not a single one of our sons, daughters, neighbors and friends serving overseas is a “phony soldier.” We call on you to publicly repudiate these comments that call into question their service and sacrifice and to ask Mr. Limbaugh to apologize for his comments.

Sincerely,

Senator Harry Reid, Majority Leader
Senator Richard Durbin, Assistant Majority Leader
Senator Charles Schumer, Vice Chairman, Democratic Conference
Senator Patty Murray, Secretary, Democratic Conference
Senator Daniel Akaka
Senator Max Baucus
Senator Joseph Biden
Senator Barbara Boxer
Senator Sherrod Brown
Senator Robert Byrd
Senator Benjamin Cardin
Senator Tom Carper
Senator Bob Casey
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Senator Kent Conrad
Senator Christopher Dodd
Senator Byron Dorgan
Senator Dianne Feinstein
Senator Tom Harkin
Senator Daniel Inouye
Senator Edward M. Kennedy
Senator John Kerry
Senator Amy Klobuchar
Senator Mary Landrieu
Senator Frank Lautenberg
Senator Patrick Leahy
Senator Carl Levin
Senator Blanche Lincoln
Senator Bob Menendez
Senator Barbara Mikulski
Senator Bill Nelson
Senator Barack Obama
Senator Jack Reed
Senator Jay Rockefeller
Senator Ken Salazar
Senator Bernie Sanders
Senator Debbie Stabenow
Senator Jon Tester
Senator Jim Webb
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse
Senator Ron Wyden

[chris817]

Come on man.. I will give you credit this is pathetic but they both deserved this shit..
O'reilly saying that eating in a harlem restaurant is just the same as other "white places" he made it seem he was surprised they were eating with knifes and forkes..
rush said something stupid, he just did not call out the above you mentioned.. He said soldiers who are against this war are phony soldiers.. Thats a cheap shot and you know it
If they are outragged where is the outrage over
John McCain
Max cleland
John Kerry
everyone else that has been smeared with cheap tatics
And if it meant nothing why when it was rebroadcasted in Iraq this was edited out?

[jameznyhc]

Come on man.. I will give you credit this is pathetic but they both deserved this shit..
O'reilly saying that eating in a harlem restaurant is just the same as other "white places" he made it seem he was surprised they were eating with knifes and forkes..
rush said something stupid, he just did not call out the above you mentioned.. He said soldiers who are against this war are phony soldiers.. Thats a cheap shot and you know it
If they are outragged where is the outrage over
John McCain
Max cleland
John Kerry
everyone else that has been smeared with cheap tatics

even the caller in the clip was referring to left wing outlets who listen to these PHONY soldiers who come out of the blue (meaning the jessie macbeths) where in that comment did they say soldiers who oppose the war are phony lol....

Oreilly was making a statement that not all african americans subscribe to the hip hop culture, ..plain and simple thats why media matters looks ridiculous ..anyone with a brain cqan listen to both observations and realize the left are clippin and snippin quotes like allways

I smell the fairness doctrine brewing ..dont be so blind!

[jameznyhc]

here is the real deal ...where do they mention soldiers who oppose the war or are anti-war..
everyone see thru this shit ..why?? Murtha called our soldiers MUDERERS .. no condemnation, and no condemnation of moveon.org ad about petraeus..its so transparent and fake ..keep it up ..i allways say democrats self destruct because they dont govern on principles ..

Limbaugh was responding to a caller who argued that anti-war groups "never talk to real soldiers."

"They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media," the caller said.

"The phony soldiers," Limbaugh responded.

www.foxsnews.com

[chris817]

Your missing my point. I don't think Rush who has been a broadcaster for over 20 years and a huge supporter for our military really believes what he said.. He just like O'reilly said something stupid.
Again if it mean nothing why was it edited out of the rebroadcast? my guess is bc he did not mean it and did not want to offend any soldiers
On your point of O'reilly its 2007 who really believes that all african americans act like hip hop culture? thats nuts


look at the full transcript of his call
If one looks at the transcript, it’s rather clear that it’s the former. Limbaugh is no idiot but one of his favorite rhetorical devices is defining a group in a very narrow way and then claiming anyone who doesn’t fit that definition but nonetheless identifies himself that way is either a liar, a plant, misguided, or the like. Indeed, there are several instances of this in the exchange in question (highlights mine):

RUSH: Mike, you can’t possibly be a Republican.

CALLER: I am.

RUSH: You can’t be Republican.

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.

CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: As long as it takes.

CALLER: How long?

RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?

RUSH: No, Bill — (Laughing) or Mike. I’m sorry. I’m confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but –

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: You’re not listening to what I say. You can’t possibly be a Republican. I’m answering every question; it’s not what you want to hear, and so it’s not even penetrating your little wall of armor you’ve got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn’t say forever. Nothing takes forever. That’s not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything — do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, “Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it’s not, so screw it”? You don’t live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don’t know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.

Another Mike. This one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am serving in the American military, in the Army. I’ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I’m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I’m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don’t understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that’s over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we’d have to go right back over there within a year or so.

RUSH: There’s a lot more than that that they don’t understand. The next guy that calls here I’m going to ask them, “What is the imperative of pulling out? What’s in it for the United States to pull out?” I don’t think they have an answer for that other than, “When’s he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe,” whatever.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: It’s not possible intellectually to follow these people.

CALLER: No, it’s not. And what’s really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.

RUSH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they’re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they’re willing to sacrifice for the country.

RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.

CALLER: A lot of people.

RUSH: You know where you’re going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you’re going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.

To Limbaugh — at least Limbaugh the radio persona — if you disagree with his views, you’re not a Republican. If you say you’re a huge fan of his show but you disagree with him on this one issue, you’re a Democratic plant sent in with talking points, posing as a loyal listener to get past the call screener. If you claim to be a veteran or currently in the military and differ with him on military issues, you’re not really a soldier. Similarly, anonymous soldiers quoted in the press criticizing the war are fictitious. Liberal journalists fabricate them to spice up their stories.

He’s an exceedingly bright fellow — you don’t make yourself into a household name, basically invent a new medium, and last two decades doing three hours a day doing radio call-in otherwise — so my guess is this schtick is just an act used to bait the opposition and score points with his loyal listeners. I don’t think he actually believes this nonsense.

Regardless, it’s an infuriating and dishonest stance. Still, it’s not the same as what he’s being accused of here, though: Saying that soldiers who want to leave Iraq are therefore “phony soldiers.”

[Defekted]

Your missing my point. I don't think Rush who has been a broadcaster for over 20 years and a huge supporter for our military really believes what he said.. He just like O'reilly said something stupid.
Again if it mean nothing why was it edited out of the rebroadcast? my guess is bc he did not mean it and did not want to offend any soldiers
On your point of O'reilly its 2007 who really believes that all african americans act like hip hop culture? thats nuts


look at the full transcript of his call
If one looks at the transcript, it’s rather clear that it’s the former. Limbaugh is no idiot but one of his favorite rhetorical devices is defining a group in a very narrow way and then claiming anyone who doesn’t fit that definition but nonetheless identifies himself that way is either a liar, a plant, misguided, or the like. Indeed, there are several instances of this in the exchange in question (highlights mine):

RUSH: Mike, you can’t possibly be a Republican.

CALLER: I am.

RUSH: You can’t be Republican.

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.

CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: As long as it takes.

CALLER: How long?

RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?

RUSH: No, Bill — (Laughing) or Mike. I’m sorry. I’m confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but –

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: You’re not listening to what I say. You can’t possibly be a Republican. I’m answering every question; it’s not what you want to hear, and so it’s not even penetrating your little wall of armor you’ve got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn’t say forever. Nothing takes forever. That’s not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything — do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, “Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it’s not, so screw it”? You don’t live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don’t know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.

Another Mike. This one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am serving in the American military, in the Army. I’ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I’m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I’m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don’t understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that’s over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we’d have to go right back over there within a year or so.

RUSH: There’s a lot more than that that they don’t understand. The next guy that calls here I’m going to ask them, “What is the imperative of pulling out? What’s in it for the United States to pull out?” I don’t think they have an answer for that other than, “When’s he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe,” whatever.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: It’s not possible intellectually to follow these people.

CALLER: No, it’s not. And what’s really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.

RUSH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they’re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they’re willing to sacrifice for the country.

RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.

CALLER: A lot of people.

RUSH: You know where you’re going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you’re going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.

To Limbaugh — at least Limbaugh the radio persona — if you disagree with his views, you’re not a Republican. If you say you’re a huge fan of his show but you disagree with him on this one issue, you’re a Democratic plant sent in with talking points, posing as a loyal listener to get past the call screener. If you claim to be a veteran or currently in the military and differ with him on military issues, you’re not really a soldier. Similarly, anonymous soldiers quoted in the press criticizing the war are fictitious. Liberal journalists fabricate them to spice up their stories.

He’s an exceedingly bright fellow — you don’t make yourself into a household name, basically invent a new medium, and last two decades doing three hours a day doing radio call-in otherwise — so my guess is this schtick is just an act used to bait the opposition and score points with his loyal listeners. I don’t think he actually believes this nonsense.

Regardless, it’s an infuriating and dishonest stance. Still, it’s not the same as what he’s being accused of here, though: Saying that soldiers who want to leave Iraq are therefore “phony soldiers.”

You forgot to say "i rest my case" and slam your hand down on the table...

thanks for the transcript Chris.... its clear as day.

they took it out of context is the STANDARD explanation from everyone on the right wing, i hear it at least 3 times a day.......


theirs big mouths sometimes forget to keep it PC and slip to show how racist, cruel, and dumb they can be depending on the topic......


then behind private doors they are sexually harrasing their coworkers, they are banging little boys in the page dorms or old men in bathrooms, abusing prescription drugs, cheating on their wives, using illegals to cut their lawn, etc etc etc ..... i just get my popcorn when i get home turn on the tv and wait to see which republican in office or one of their mouthpieces in the media fucked up today.... lmao

[jameznyhc]

You forgot to say "i rest my case" and slam your hand down on the table...

thanks for the transcript Chris.... its clear as day.

they took it out of context is the STANDARD explanation from everyone on the right wing, i hear it at least 3 times a day.......


theirs big mouths sometimes forget to keep it PC and slip to show how racist, cruel, and dumb they can be depending on the topic......


then behind private doors they are sexually harrasing their coworkers, they are banging little boys in the page dorms or old men in bathrooms, abusing prescription drugs, cheating on their wives, using illegals to cut their lawn, etc etc etc ..... i just get my popcorn when i get home turn on the tv and wait to see which republican in office or one of their mouthpieces in the media fucked up today.... lmao

whats clear as day?? that they were talking about phony soldiers who the left wing worship like jessie macbeth?? again i dont see rush stating anywhere that soldiers who oppose the war, disagree w/policy or disagree w/bush administration as phony soldiers.. nice try..media matters fails once again ..do they think were that stupid..

[jameznyhc]

You forgot to say "i rest my case" and slam your hand down on the table...

thanks for the transcript Chris.... its clear as day.

they took it out of context is the STANDARD explanation from everyone on the right wing, i hear it at least 3 times a day.......


theirs big mouths sometimes forget to keep it PC and slip to show how racist, cruel, and dumb they can be depending on the topic......


then behind private doors they are sexually harrasing their coworkers, they are banging little boys in the page dorms or old men in bathrooms, abusing prescription drugs, cheating on their wives, using illegals to cut their lawn, etc etc etc ..... i just get my popcorn when i get home turn on the tv and wait to see which republican in office or one of their mouthpieces in the media fucked up today.... lmao

want some more???

THE tale of Army Private Scott Thomas Beauchamp, the discredited "Baghdad Diarist" for The New Republic magazine, is an old tale:

Self-aggrandizing soldier recounts war atrocities. Media outlets disseminate soldier's tales uncritically. Military folks smell a rat and poke holes in tales too good (or rather, bad) to be true. Soldier's ideological sponsors blame the messengers for exposing anti-war fraud.

Beauchamp belongs in the same ward as John Kerry, the original infectious agent of the toxic disease known as Winter Soldier Syndrome. (In the "Winter Soldier investigation" anti-war Vietnam activists publicized bogus charges of rampant war atrocities by U.S. forces.) The ward is filling up.

U.S. military investigators concluded this week that Beauchamp concocted allegations of troop misconduct in a series of essays for The New Republic. "The investigation is complete and the allegations from PVT Beauchamp are false," Maj. Steven Lamb, a spokesman for Multi National Division-Baghdad, told USA Today.

The New Republic is standing by Beauchamp's work. But Michael Goldfarb, the Weekly Standard editor who first challenged Beauchamp's writing, reported Monday that Beauchamp had "signed a sworn statement admitting that all three articles he published in the New Republic were exaggerations and falsehoods - fabrications containing only 'a smidgen of truth,' in the words of our source."

To illustrate the soul-deadening impact of war, Beauchamp had described sitting in a mess hall in Iraq mocking a female civilian contractor whose face had "melted" after an IED explosion. "I love chicks that have been intimate - with IEDs," Pvt. Beauchamp claimed he said out loud in her earshot. "It really turns me on - melted skin, missing limbs, plastic noses."

Beauchamp recounted: "My friend was practically falling out of his chair laughing. The disfigured woman slammed her cup down and ran out of the chow hall."

It wasn't true. After active-duty troops, veterans, embedded journalists and bloggers raised pointed questions about the anecdote's veracity, Beauchamp confessed to New Republic fact-checkers that the mocking had taken place in Kuwait - before he had set foot in Iraq to experience the soul-deadening impact of war. Military officials in Kuwait tried to verify the incident and called it an "urban legend or myth."

Beauchamp's essays are filled with similarly spun tales. (An aspiring creative writer, he crowed on his personal blog that he would "return to America an author" after serving - which, he told friends and family, would "add a legitimacy to everything I do afterwards.") How much of a bull-slinger was he? His essay "Shock Troops" opened with the melted-face mockery; the very first line was this: "I saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq."

"Nearly every time at "my base in Iraq": Complete and utter bull.

Defenders of The New Republic (a left-leaning magazine infamously duped by another young and ambitious fabulist, Stephen Glass) say the Beauchamp saga has been 1) blown out of proportion; 2) perpetuated by sloppy, rumor-mongering bloggers; 3) used as a distraction from the troubles in Iraq; and 4) exploited by "chickenhawks" who deny that war atrocities happen.

But the truth is, you won't find a single Bush Kool-Aid drinker among the military bloggers, embedded independent journalists and active-duty troops who prominently questioned the Beauchamp sham. They know it ain't all going swimmingly overseas.

But, unlike Pvt. Beauchamp, they're committed to telling the whole truth about the war, not just approximations and embellishments that will score easy magazine gigs and future book deals with elite New York City publishers. The doubters of Scott Thomas know atrocities when they see them. But, unlike the TNR editors, they know steaming bull dung when they smell it.

Ever since John Kerry sat in front of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and accused American soldiers of wantonly razing villages "in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan," the Left has embraced a small cadre of self-loathing soldiers and soldier wannabes willing to sell their deadened souls for the anti-war cause. Think Jimmy Massey, the unhinged Marine who falsely accused his unit of engaging in mass genocide against Iraqis. Think Jesse MacBeth and Micah Wright, anti-war Army Rangers who weren't Army Rangers.

Winter Soldier Syndrome will only be cured when the costs of slandering the troops outweigh the benefits. Exposing Scott Thomas Beauchamp and his brethren matters because the truth matters. The honor of the military matters. The credibility of the media matters.

Think it doesn't make a difference? Imagine where Sen. John Kerry would be now if the Internet had been around in 1971.

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