Obama finally takes the gloves off...hits clinton hard over iraq war

[jameznyhc]

He sayin what ive been saying since day one...this was not BUSH's war ..



Obama Rebukes Clinton on Iraq War
By JOSH GERSTEIN
Staff Reporter of the Sun
October 2, 2007 updated 4:12 pm EDT


With his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination lagging in the polls, Senator Obama of Illinois is mounting a fresh attack on Senator Clinton's stance on the Iraq War and implying that her explanations about a key Senate vote on Iraq have been dishonest.

During a foreign policy speech in at DePaul University in Chicago today, Mr. Obama did not mention Mrs. Clinton by name. However, as he honed in on legislators who backed a 2002 resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq, it became obvious that his criticism was directed at the frontrunner in the Democratic presidential contest, Mrs. Clinton.

"The American people weren't just failed by a president. They were failed by much of Washington, by media that too often reported spin instead do facts, by a foreign policy elite that largely boarded the bandwagon for war, and most of all by the majority of a Congress, a coequal branch of government that voted to give the president the open-ended authority to wage war that he uses to this day," Mr. Obama said.

"So let's be clear, without that vote there would be no war. Some now seek to rewrite history. They argue they weren't really voting for war, they were voting for inspectors or they were voting for diplomacy. But the Congress, the administration, the media, and the American People all understood what we were debating in the fall of 2002," Mr. Obama declared. "This was a vote about whether or not to go to war. That's the truth as we all understood it then and as we need to understand it now. We need to ask those who voted for the war, ‘How can you give the president a blank check and then act surprised when he cashes it?'"

Mrs. Clinton's campaign had no immediate response to the broadside from Mr. Obama. As the war has dragged on, she has insisted that her vote in October 2002 for a measure officially titled, "A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq," was intended to give President Bush added negotiating power with President Saddam Hussein of Iraq and to get U.N. weapons inspectors back into the country.

Mr. Obama's speech today came on the fifth anniversary of his appearance at an anti-war rally at DePaul, where he forcefully denounced the idea of war with Iraq and predicted, accurately, that sectarian strife would result. The Illinois senator, whose presidential campaign has been stymied by concerns over his lack of experience, insisted that his foresight proved more accurate than the judgment of others with longer résumés.

"There is a choice that has emerged in this campaign, one that the American people need to understand. They should ask themselves, ‘Who got the single most important foreign policy decision since the Cold War right, and who got it wrong?'" he said.

In his 20-minute foreign policy address, Mr. Obama also urged the abolition of all nuclear weapons. He said setting a clear policy in that direction would make it harder for rogue nations to claim a need for their own nuclear programs. "It's time to stop giving countries like Iran and North Korea an excuse. It's time for America to lead," he said.

http://www.nysun.com/article/63816

[jameznyhc]

...crickets... im schocked with all the obama supporters we have here

[Defekted]

what do i have to say that i havent said 1 million times on this board.... i hate hillarys vote and worse off her refusal to apologize for it, furthermore, her vote last week for the first step to war with Iran....

Obama, like i said, has been on the money since the beginning:

Look at this sound arguement BEFORE THE WAR STARTED:

In a speech at that time, five months before the U.S. invaded Iraq, Obama said publicly that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors," that he could be contained, and that "even a successful war against Iraq will require U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

Obama added that such a war would "strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda."


On Tuesday, in a speech in Chicago, Obama reflected on his early opposition.

"In this campaign, we've seen who has the leadership to lead the country during difficult times -- I did not only oppose the war but laid out reasons that turned out to be prescient over time, and I think that says something about my judgment," he said.


WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY..... OBAMA 08! BABY.......

[jameznyhc]

what do i have to say that i havent said 1 million times on this board.... i hate hillarys vote and worse off her refusal to apologize for it, furthermore, her vote last week for the first step to war with Iran....

Obama, like i said, has been on the money since the beginning:

Look at this sound arguement BEFORE THE WAR STARTED:

In a speech at that time, five months before the U.S. invaded Iraq, Obama said publicly that Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors," that he could be contained, and that "even a successful war against Iraq will require U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences."

Obama added that such a war would "strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda."


On Tuesday, in a speech in Chicago, Obama reflected on his early opposition.

"In this campaign, we've seen who has the leadership to lead the country during difficult times -- I did not only oppose the war but laid out reasons that turned out to be prescient over time, and I think that says something about my judgment," he said.


WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY..... OBAMA 08! BABY.......

boggles my mind how far ahead billary is

[John Kennedy]

boggles my mind how far ahead billary is

it means nothing before the primaries... mccain was slaughtering bush in 2000 before the primaries.

[Studz]

i would like to see obama and edwards running together.

[darius]

i would like to see obama and edwards running together.

why the hell would you want to mix piss & vinegar? edwards is a cancer (no pun intended).

obama still has my vote

[John Kennedy]

why the hell would you want to mix piss & vinegar? edwards is a cancer (no pun intended).

obama still has my vote

Yeah Edwards is the kiss of death, he's done.

My dream ticket would be Obama and Biden but dream tickets never happen lol