nice!!

[MichelangeloWHO]

great forum...

can we have the auto-signuatre for every post/reply we make? ..lol

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[So Deeva]

great forum...

can we have the auto-signuatre for every post/reply we make? ..lol

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The views by this poster is solely his opinion. Please contact a professional advisor. Past performance is not guarantee of future results.

lol

[crazyray™]

Plenty of professionals who are horrible too. If you aren't educated enough to learn fundamental trends, technical analysis, macro/micro trends, momentum plays... and then realize that sometimes hedgies and MMs will move a stock so you can throw that out the window, YOU SHOULDN'T BE INVESTING.

If you want sound returns there are plenty Mutual Funds, MMAs, etc that you can invest in. Personally I may consult professionals, but stocks I invest in i'm always pretty set on before based on my own DD.

[So Deeva]

Plenty of professionals who are horrible too. If you aren't educated enough to learn fundamental trends, technical analysis, macro/micro trends, momentum plays... and then realize that sometimes hedgies and MMs will move a stock so you can throw that out the window, YOU SHOULDN'T BE INVESTING.

you shouldnt be investing? you are using unnecessary verbage. most investors can pick a simple stock based on the info from a snapshot in yahoo finance. you can make perfectly sound investment decisions without knowing such theories you listed as 'momentum plays' & 'hedgies' lol...

If you want sound returns there are plenty Mutual Funds, MMAs, etc that you can invest in. Personally I may consult professionals, but stocks I invest in i'm always pretty set on before based on my own DD.

Sound returns? what exactly do you mean by that?

[Snowrider]

Great forum

[crazyray™]

you shouldnt be investing? you are using unnecessary verbage. most investors can pick a simple stock based on the info from a snapshot in yahoo finance. you can make perfectly sound investment decisions without knowing such theories you listed as 'momentum plays' & 'hedgies' lol...



Sound returns? what exactly do you mean by that?

First of all, ANY recent statistics have shown that since Nasdaq 2000 the retail investor has stayed away for the most part. It is more the hedge funds and firms that are behind the rally. Nasdaq 2000 destroyed alot of confidence and ALOT of people are staying on the sidelines.

And if investing was AS easy as picking a stock on Yahoo and making money, people would be making cash hand over fist. Just because we've been in a MASSIVE bull market the past few years doesn't mean investing is simple... it just means its been EASIER to make money recently. We'll see how many people just RANDOMLY make money when the market becomes a bear market. You make investing sound like its as easy as a layup drill.

As with everything in life, you should constantly seek to research the topic, and live to learn everyday. My comment was in reply to Michelangelo's comment about professionals. My argument is that any INFORMED investor can see the SAME returns as consultants/professionals. The verbage i've used may be complicated to someone who knows NOTHING about stocks, but in reality you know that both you and I know they are pretty basic terms for anyone relatively informed with the market.

For someone looking for CONSISTANT returns, instead of gambling by randomly picking stocks without doing DD, you can invest in something like one of Vanguard's Mutual Funds that will net you consistant returns year over year. That was my point.

[So Deeva]

First of all, ANY recent statistics have shown that since Nasdaq 2000 the retail investor has stayed away for the most part. It is more the hedge funds and firms that are behind the rally. Nasdaq 2000 destroyed alot of confidence and ALOT of people are staying on the sidelines.

And if investing was AS easy as picking a stock on Yahoo and making money, people would be making cash hand over fist. Just because we've been in a MASSIVE bull market the past few years doesn't mean investing is simple... it just means its been EASIER to make money recently. We'll see how many people just RANDOMLY make money when the market becomes a bear market. You make investing sound like its as easy as a layup drill.

As with everything in life, you should constantly seek to research the topic, and live to learn everyday. My comment was in reply to Michelangelo's comment about professionals. My argument is that any INFORMED investor can see the SAME returns as consultants/professionals. The verbage i've used may be complicated to someone who knows NOTHING about stocks, but in reality you know that both you and I know they are pretty basic terms for anyone relatively informed with the market.

For someone looking for CONSISTANT returns, instead of gambling by randomly picking stocks without doing DD, you can invest in something like one of Vanguard's Mutual Funds that will net you consistant returns year over year. That was my point.

I never said that investing was easy nor a lay up drill. I was raising a point that you were trying to sound like some kind of financial guru when it comes choosing stocks. The terms you were using are not, for the most part, necessary knowledge needed in choosing a good stock. A person can go on yahoo finance enter ticker, look at the company profile, balance sheet, price to book, earnings per share etc. (regardless of whether we are in a bull or bear market) and make a sound investment decision. To say that people “should not invest” because they don’t know arbitrage theories, ‘momentum plays’ & ‘hedgies’ is not applicable in most cases. I'm just saying that the stock market really should not be considered territory only for those with advanced knowledge of complex market theories.

As for ‘net consistent returns’ in regards to mutual funds, I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. If I could promise my clients net consistent returns when soliciting mutual funds id be one rich lady lol

[Gspot555]

Plenty of professionals who are horrible too. If you aren't educated enough to learn fundamental trends, technical analysis, macro/micro trends, momentum plays... and then realize that sometimes hedgies and MMs will move a stock so you can throw that out the window, YOU SHOULDN'T BE INVESTING.

If you want sound returns there are plenty Mutual Funds, MMAs, etc that you can invest in. Personally I may consult professionals, but stocks I invest in i'm always pretty set on before based on my own DD.

I disagree with your first paragraph...to a certain extent

I do not see anything wrong with the K.I.S.S. principle...(Keep it Simple Stupid)

[John Kennedy]

I think alot of the trending data may help for intraday traders, but the bottom line is you have to believe in a company and know that the basic financials are healthy.. and you can do well with that. Investing isn't always a science, business is business. Businesses turn around, introduce new products, have fired up management, and make smart moves that can pull in tons of cash or destroy things.. there's nothing wrong with investing on big picture info imo

[cluba]

I agree - great forum. I'm good for always checking out this site daily (makes my work day go by a lot faster) but never posted for whatever reason but now with this forum :D