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    MJ don't cause cancer... period

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    Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

    By Marc Kaufman
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, May 26, 2006; A03

    The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

    The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

    "We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

    Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

    Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

    Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

    They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

    "This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

    Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

    While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

    The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.

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    i find this hard to believe
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    well.. doc got 30 yrs experience behind his back

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaf2k View Post
    well.. doc got 30 yrs experience behind his back
    LOL

    So if I read that right the methodology was having a bunch of stoners fill out questionaires. In all seriousness, I had heard that back in college from this dude when he was passing me the bong.

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    thing is a lot of pple smoke blunts and all sorts of joint paper. that's the crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzoys View Post
    thing is a lot of pple smoke blunts and all sorts of joint paper. that's the crap.
    glass bowls.
    cleanest way

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkito View Post
    glass bowls.
    cleanest way
    clean it regularly with alcohol and salt solution

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    oh i know

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzoys View Post
    clean it regularly with alcohol and salt solution
    yup! i got bamboozled first time around buying the 420 solution, then im like wait.... it ingredients salt. alcholol, citrus..... wtf. for 7 dollars? i can make 3 gallons for 7 bucks.


    the blunts are killer, papers too, glass bowls or even better I bought myslef a vaporizer

    all the effects of the high no bad shit or tar.

    peep it

    http://www.gotvape.com

    in Cali they use these things like mad, I got the vapair one its insane. 150 bucks for your life not a bad trade off.

    I think its crazy that weed isn't socially acceptable fully yet and illegal no one ever killed or died on weed.
    "you may think he dead, he aint dead , he gonna wake up in 30 minutes hungry enough to eat up everything in your house!"

    no one ever OD'd on pot you drive slower high too ( not everyone and i don't condone driving high but if you had too), people run people over every day drunk yet alcholol is legal.thats nutty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    yup! i got bamboozled first time around buying the 420 solution, then im like wait.... it ingredients salt. alcholol, citrus..... wtf. for 7 dollars? i can make 3 gallons for 7 bucks.


    the blunts are killer, papers too, glass bowls or even better I bought myslef a vaporizer

    all the effects of the high no bad shit or tar.

    peep it

    http://www.gotvape.com

    in Cali they use these things like mad, I got the vapair one its insane. 150 bucks for your life not a bad trade off.

    I think its crazy that weed isn't socially acceptable fully yet and illegal no one ever killed or died on weed.
    "you may think he dead, he aint dead , he gonna wake up in 30 minutes hungry enough to eat up everything in your house!"

    no one ever OD'd on pot you drive slower high too ( not everyone and i don't condone driving high but if you had too), people run people over every day drunk yet alcholol is legal.thats nutty.
    i don't buy that tho. don't think i ever will.

    there have been reports of pple who had heart attacks while stoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzoys View Post
    i don't buy that tho. don't think i ever will.

    there have been reports of pple who had heart attacks while stoned.
    They prob had heart problems nothing is full proof but people been smoking bud for 10,000 yrs and no one ever oded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippinFace101 View Post
    They prob had heart problems nothing is full proof but people been smoking bud for 10,000 yrs and no one ever oded.
    exactly im quite sure if they had a heart attack it was from something else.

    maybe a panic attack i doubt a heart attack.


    when you smoke weed trying to come off crack that may happen....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzoys View Post
    i don't buy that tho. don't think i ever will.

    there have been reports of pple who had heart attacks while stoned.
    ?

    suspect at best. ok even if so 5 cases in 10,000 years sounds pretty safe to me.

    whats it 15,000 death by driving and intoxication in this country each year? not even a comparison.

    And i have yet to hear of any deaths from MJ, maybe panic attacks they THOUGHT they were having aheart attack, i know someone that ran to the hpospital for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippinFace101 View Post
    They prob had heart problems nothing is full proof but people been smoking bud for 10,000 yrs and no one ever oded.
    well pple can say smoking cigarettes is involved with heart attacks- and i don't want to hear that nicotine alone is the culprit. the suffocation in the lungs while you smoke raises the HR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    ?

    suspect at best. ok even if so 5 cases in 10,000 years sounds pretty safe to me.

    whats it 15,000 death by driving and intoxication in this country each year? not even a comparison.

    And i have yet to hear of any deaths from MJ, maybe panic attacks they THOUGHT they were having aheart attack, i know someone that ran to the hpospital for this.
    how does a cop check to see if you are driving stoned? srsly.. eyedroppers take the red out. there is no breathalizer or any other method to prove in court that one is DUI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dzoys View Post
    how does a cop check to see if you are driving stoned? srsly.. eyedroppers take the red out. there is no breathalizer or any other method to prove in court that one is DUI.
    don't follow what your asking?

    you can't check unless they do a piss test.

    are you trying to say that a bunch of people caught Driving drunk were really high? cause that makes zero sense. you can tell when someones drunk by smelling them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    don't follow what your asking?

    you can't check unless they do a piss test.

    are you trying to say that a bunch of people caught Driving drunk were really high? cause that makes zero sense. you can tell when someones drunk by smelling them
    i think what he's trying to say is that some accidents may be caused by a driver being high but there isn't an easy way to tell that like giving someone a breathalizer but this guy is just stubborn and is obviously NOT gonna change his opinion on this matter so your wasting your time.

    If Alcohol and cigarette's are legal, Marijuana 100% should be too, nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post

    no one ever OD'd on pot you drive slower high too ( not everyone and i don't condone driving high but if you had too), people run people over every day drunk yet alcholol is legal.thats nutty.
    Driving high is just as bad as driving drunk. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jucrew1 View Post
    i think what he's trying to say is that some accidents may be caused by a driver being high but there isn't an easy way to tell that like giving someone a breathalizer but this guy is just stubborn and is obviously NOT gonna change his opinion on this matter so your wasting your time.

    If Alcohol and cigarette's are legal, Marijuana 100% should be too, nuff said.
    NOt to mention, so many more people drink than smoke weed.

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    Smoking pot may not be associate with lung cancer but it is most definitely associated with COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
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