why did obama bow to a saudi king?

[Bekim...]

[sadelb]

[crazyray™]

typical obama supporter, instead of addressing the question posted, they reply with something related to how shitty bush was as president

[jameznyhc]

typical obama supporter, instead of addressing the question posted, they reply with something related to how shitty bush was as president

right didnt bush get hammered for being a saudi lovin ass kisser ?? ..besides i thought Obama and the dems werent in the saudis pockets like Bush family was thats all i heard for 8 years.. now we have change you figure we can drill here at home and finally kick these losers to the curb ..nope looks like barry and the dems are not only in the saudis pockets but also LYING about the bowing incident which is the issue here .. at least Bush didnt try to lie if he were to bow down ..Does the Obama whitehouse thik were really so dumb as to believe the Saudi king was that much smaller and it wasnt a bow? .. its the straight up lying thats makin this a big issue .. just admit it

[CYBOUNCER]

It was a straight up embarrassment. Never in the history of this country, has a President BOWED to a King. The closest was Clinton when he “Dipped” to the emperor of Japan.

I made a comment on my facebook and it got 65 replies, mostly from the bleeding hearts trying to say what a shitty president GWB was and that it’s no big deal. Well, I didn’t vote for GWB, I agree he was bad, and it is a pretty big deal.

I understand that we have to show humility as a country, especially after how we’ve basically imposed our will on the rest of the world for decades now, but to bow to a King just goes against everything we’ve ever stood for. Then you see Obama basically apologizing for us to the rest of the world. We’re getting de-balled in world opinion thanks to ol’ Barry…

[jameznyhc]

It was a straight up embarrassment. Never in the history of this country, has a President BOWED to a King. The closest was Clinton when he “Dipped” to the emperor of Japan.

I made a comment on my facebook and it got 65 replies, mostly from the bleeding hearts trying to say what a shitty president GWB was and that it’s no big deal. Well, I didn’t vote for GWB, I agree he was bad, and it is a pretty big deal.

I understand that we have to show humility as a country, especially after how we’ve basically imposed our will on the rest of the world for decades now, but to bow to a King just goes against everything we’ve ever stood for. Then you see Obama basically apologizing for us to the rest of the world. We’re getting de-balled in world opinion thanks to ol’ Barry…

few things about this trip,

you can not impose democracy ..you can impose communism , nazism, fascism, ..but a democracy only works if the people vote, and let a free and independant press exist ..it may not be as free as this republic or a democratic socialized europe but none the less we spilled alot of fuckin blood for europe .. Obama goes there and they gave him NO TROOPS for afghanistan .. Now i was told the world gonna love us when bush was gone .. but let me tell you Bush knew how to work Sarkozy, Merkel, & Brown..you realize Obama already turned down 2 requests by Sarkozy for a private meeting? ..the one man in europe who was willing to add troops as was brown during the bush administration .. Does that make sense? wouldnt you be wining and dining those 3 so you can get maximum troops ?? ..forget merkel .. but brown and sarkozy as bush shown us will give troops ..Obama not even trying .. so when he asked for stimulus ..europe declined him again ..

Back to my point europe wouldnt exist today if not for our blood .. the poles would not be free .. nor would the chechs .. Obama lied in germany last summer when he said the world came together to tear down the berlin wall .. No the world did not come together ..it was Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and the Pope .. what you dont see is when Reagan did speak to the Communist people and went after the evil empire ..the socialist left in free democratic europe rioted ..yep there were riots, the american lefties called him a war mongerer ..the euro intellectuals hated reagan .. they were just reacting out of FEAR .. see alot of people thought Reagan was nuts to go after the communists after all there was a hell of alot more at stake than a little country like Iraq .. Russia in their prime was no joke .. and because of Reagan and thatcher all those free european countires today like poland can now govern themselves and the poles are great allies .. it was even more disgusting that Obama was willing to throw them under the bus before even meeting with Putin .. hew was willing to give up the shield .. do you know what type of risks some in poland took to sign that deal with us? .. and Obama just willing to give it up ..the Russians then humiliated Obama by making it public.. i dont see Arrogance in the cold war .. I dont see arrogance when i look at normandy at all the dead US soldiers who saved europe from hitler...

As for the middle east appeasement never worked ..again Barry addresses the Mullahs but unlike Bush he never addresses the people of Iran or speaks of their oppression .. he was silent after the backwards rape law was passed in afghanistan after all of Laura Bush & Hillarys work in afghanistan .. Hillary refused to condem China on human rights violations..Bush allways spoke out ... it seems that democrats and liberals today have absolutly no regard for human rights .. the oppressed ..and enslaved .. its like they dont exist ..

Again appeasement and closing your eyes and mouth to tyranny will only breed massive aggression, hostility and much more human rights abuse ..

As much as people hate Bush he liberated alot of muslims ..Iraq seems to be adjusting and totally EMBRACING democratic rule ..There were lots of advances for women in Afghanistan up until this new draconian law was passed since Obama took over.. but again its up to those people to embrace it ..democracy can not be imposed ..you cant force someone to vote at gunpoint or have a independant press ..only the people can choose to do so .


So now i guess the startegy of Obama is bad mouyth your own country, apologize for it, dont bring up any atrocities of gulags, pogroms, holocausts, concentration camps .. yes all those wonderful things europe gave to the world lmao ..yet we are the bad guys ... hey dont mention the stonings and torture in the middle east either.. nah man we need to apologize .. this guy is a fuckin joke

[CYBOUNCER]

Poor choice of words on my part. By imposing our will, I meant we've pretty much done what we want in recent history and have been fairly close minded about world opinion.

[metfan85]

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Writes Abdullah:

I wanted to drop you a note on a Muslim perspective of the bow. I've visited a few Republican blogs regarding the bow, and most of them are offensive and ignorant. Ignorant in that more than a few are bringing up the secret Muslim accusations which only display a lack of even remedial knowledge of the religion.

Now, Obama's been globe-trotting and claiming his youthful experience in a Muslim land has given him a greater understanding of Islam. Clearly, this is not true as it is STRICTLY forbidden to bow to anyone (or thing) but God in Islam. To top that off, he bowed to perhaps the least respected leader in the eyes of most Muslims/Arabs.

It's not really an epiphany that he's not well versed (or honest) in yet another subject. After all, it seems, at least in my adult life, that the only requirement to become an elected official is to be a good actor. Maybe not even good.

Not that you would know the difference between holding a hand and bowing, sadel. I know I for one would not bow to anything or anyone but Christ.

few things about this trip,

you can not impose democracy ..you can impose communism , nazism, fascism, ..but a democracy only works if the people vote, and let a free and independant press exist ..

So you're saying that a majority of people can not elect a totalitarian government? You're a better study of history than to let ideology get in the way.

As much as people hate Bush he liberated alot of muslims ..Iraq seems to be adjusting and totally EMBRACING democratic rule ..

Only at the cost of a few hundred thousand muslims. I guess being dead makes you free of earthly burdens.

Iraq seems to be embracing the idea that if we send more people to the polls we can get out people in power. Iraq should have been split in three, left along would have been the best choice but sick maniacs in the white house disagreed and they have the guns.

[just b u]

few things about this trip,

you can not impose democracy ..you can impose communism , nazism, fascism, ..but a democracy only works if the people vote, and let a free and independant press exist ..it may not be as free as this republic or a democratic socialized europe but none the less we spilled alot of fuckin blood for europe .. Obama goes there and they gave him NO TROOPS for afghanistan .. Now i was told the world gonna love us when bush was gone .. but let me tell you Bush knew how to work Sarkozy, Merkel, & Brown..you realize Obama already turned down 2 requests by Sarkozy for a private meeting? ..the one man in europe who was willing to add troops as was brown during the bush administration .. Does that make sense? wouldnt you be wining and dining those 3 so you can get maximum troops ?? ..forget merkel .. but brown and sarkozy as bush shown us will give troops ..Obama not even trying .. so when he asked for stimulus ..europe declined him again ..

Back to my point europe wouldnt exist today if not for our blood .. the poles would not be free .. nor would the chechs .. Obama lied in germany last summer when he said the world came together to tear down the berlin wall .. No the world did not come together ..it was Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and the Pope .. what you dont see is when Reagan did speak to the Communist people and went after the evil empire ..the socialist left in free democratic europe rioted ..yep there were riots, the american lefties called him a war mongerer ..the euro intellectuals hated reagan .. they were just reacting out of FEAR .. see alot of people thought Reagan was nuts to go after the communists after all there was a hell of alot more at stake than a little country like Iraq .. Russia in their prime was no joke .. and because of Reagan and thatcher all those free european countires today like poland can now govern themselves and the poles are great allies .. it was even more disgusting that Obama was willing to throw them under the bus before even meeting with Putin .. hew was willing to give up the shield .. do you know what type of risks some in poland took to sign that deal with us? .. and Obama just willing to give it up ..the Russians then humiliated Obama by making it public.. i dont see Arrogance in the cold war .. I dont see arrogance when i look at normandy at all the dead US soldiers who saved europe from hitler...

As for the middle east appeasement never worked ..again Barry addresses the Mullahs but unlike Bush he never addresses the people of Iran or speaks of their oppression .. he was silent after the backwards rape law was passed in afghanistan after all of Laura Bush & Hillarys work in afghanistan .. Hillary refused to condem China on human rights violations..Bush allways spoke out ... it seems that democrats and liberals today have absolutly no regard for human rights .. the oppressed ..and enslaved .. its like they dont exist ..

Again appeasement and closing your eyes and mouth to tyranny will only breed massive aggression, hostility and much more human rights abuse ..

As much as people hate Bush he liberated alot of muslims ..Iraq seems to be adjusting and totally EMBRACING democratic rule ..There were lots of advances for women in Afghanistan up until this new draconian law was passed since Obama took over.. but again its up to those people to embrace it ..democracy can not be imposed ..you cant force someone to vote at gunpoint or have a independant press ..only the people can choose to do so .


So now i guess the startegy of Obama is bad mouyth your own country, apologize for it, dont bring up any atrocities of gulags, pogroms, holocausts, concentration camps .. yes all those wonderful things europe gave to the world lmao ..yet we are the bad guys ... hey dont mention the stonings and torture in the middle east either.. nah man we need to apologize .. this guy is a fuckin joke

WOW NOW THAT IS BEAUTIFULLY SAID.
Agree on all points. Liberals always scream the loudest on how they're the most forward and against atrocities going on in the world but in the end of the day, they just scream but dont do anything about it. Wasnt it Bush who was pushing for the Rwanda genocide to be focused on and addressed, his wife focused on the attrocities that the muslim world was imposing on their women, and look at this liberal gov't we have who doesnt speak out about the tyranny of China, the new laws being passed in Afghanistan, and embracing the mullahs wtfff. basically i'm just reiterating what you're saying.

This bowing to Saudi prince is a disgrace, it brings me back to the issue of Barack Hussein Obama being close to his Muslim roots. How the media was vehemently denying it, and if you called him Hussein you'd be called prejudice. This incident just shows me that his beliefs sway to the muslim side.

On top of that why in the world would you refuse to go to Normandy with Sarkozy but you bow to the prince of Saudi Arabia, now that's a scary thought. his loyalty lies with a corrupt muslim country rather than with Sarkozy and going to the graves of the brave American soldiers, what a spit in the face.

A speech he gave recently, i forgot where, he kept on going on and on how muslims influenced US!?!? Whattt, how the hell did Muslims influence US. All I see from most Muslims who move here is movement against assimilating to the culture, disrespect to the culture and pple of US. More precisely, i'm talking about arabic muslims.

[metfan85]

This bowing to Saudi prince is a disgrace, it brings me back to the issue of Barack Hussein Obama being close to his Muslim roots. How the media was vehemently denying it, and if you called him Hussein you'd be called prejudice. This incident just shows me that his beliefs sway to the muslim side.

NO. If I had more time I'd go into the rest of the post, but this is wrong, 100%. In Islam you submit only to Allah, not to an earthly Prince. This shows he's a clueless Chicago machine politician, not a secret practitioner of Islam out to convert or kill you.

[jameznyhc]

[QUOTE=metfan85;2900065]Writes Abdullah:

I wanted to drop you a note on a Muslim perspective of the bow. I've visited a few Republican blogs regarding the bow, and most of them are offensive and ignorant. Ignorant in that more than a few are bringing up the secret Muslim accusations which only display a lack of even remedial knowledge of the religion.

Now, Obama's been globe-trotting and claiming his youthful experience in a Muslim land has given him a greater understanding of Islam. Clearly, this is not true as it is STRICTLY forbidden to bow to anyone (or thing) but God in Islam. To top that off, he bowed to perhaps the least respected leader in the eyes of most Muslims/Arabs.

It's not really an epiphany that he's not well versed (or honest) in yet another subject. After all, it seems, at least in my adult life, that the only requirement to become an elected official is to be a good actor. Maybe not even good.

Not that you would know the difference between holding a hand and bowing, sadel. I know I for one would not bow to anything or anyone but Christ.

few things about this trip,

So you're saying that a majority of people can not elect a totalitarian government? You're a better study of history than to let ideology get in the way.

of course they can if they are fooled like the Cuban and or Venezualans..nobody runs on the issue of locking up journalists and taking over media ..thats why Obama ran as a centrist even in a sophisticated society like America can have the wool pulled over their eyes .. or if the system is totally corrupt like Iran ..

Only at the cost of a few hundred thousand muslims. I guess being dead makes you free of earthly burdens.

few hundred thousand? not even close we dont target civilians ..nor does israel .. it what seperates us from them or you have million upon millions dead ... Sadaam killed alot more than we did thats for damn sure

Iraq seems to be embracing the idea that if we send more people to the polls we can get out people in power. Iraq should have been split in three, left along would have been the best choice but sick maniacs in the white house disagreed and they have the guns.

but were not sending anyone to the polls they choose to vote ..and they voted in large numbers.. who are we to split Iraq into 3 groups ?? that would be imperialist ..let the Iraqi people decide is better than breaking up there country ..if they decide to break into 3 then that will be their fate ..but its better they decide

[jameznyhc]

WOW NOW THAT IS BEAUTIFULLY SAID.
Agree on all points. Liberals always scream the loudest on how they're the most forward and against atrocities going on in the world but in the end of the day, they just scream but dont do anything about it. Wasnt it Bush who was pushing for the Rwanda genocide to be focused on and addressed, his wife focused on the attrocities that the muslim world was imposing on their women, and look at this liberal gov't we have who doesnt speak out about the tyranny of China, the new laws being passed in Afghanistan, and embracing the mullahs wtfff. basically i'm just reiterating what you're saying.

This bowing to Saudi prince is a disgrace, it brings me back to the issue of Barack Hussein Obama being close to his Muslim roots. How the media was vehemently denying it, and if you called him Hussein you'd be called prejudice. This incident just shows me that his beliefs sway to the muslim side.

On top of that why in the world would you refuse to go to Normandy with Sarkozy but you bow to the prince of Saudi Arabia, now that's a scary thought. his loyalty lies with a corrupt muslim country rather than with Sarkozy and going to the graves of the brave American soldiers, what a spit in the face.

A speech he gave recently, i forgot where, he kept on going on and on how muslims influenced US!?!? Whattt, how the hell did Muslims influence US. All I see from most Muslims who move here is movement against assimilating to the culture, disrespect to the culture and pple of US. More precisely, i'm talking about arabic muslims.

Yes Bush and the Republican congress first recognized Darfur as genocide .. The Village voice tried slamming bush cause he was trying to make this a muslim vs christian issue in darfur ..about 2 years later is when the left finally started speaking up

Why would he refuse to go to normandy ?? because he believes we are arrogant i guess ? .. i mean to decline an invitation by Sarkozy to go visit Normandy is beyond comprehension .. when the next time you ever gonna have a french president like sarkozy willing to help out America? .. Barry has no clue ..he wants to be liked so desperatly he willing to slag his own country to score brownie points .. but being liked and being respected go hand in hand .. barry hasnt learned that ..

[metfan85]

of course they can if they are fooled like the Cuban and or Venezualans..nobody runs on the issue of locking up journalists and taking over media ..thats why Obama ran as a centrist even in a sophisticated society like America can have the wool pulled over their eyes .. or if the system is totally corrupt like Iran ..

because the masses are asses. how is Iran's system any worse than ours?

few hundred thousand? not even close we dont target civilians ..nor does israel .. it what seperates us from them or you have million upon millions dead ... Sadaam killed alot more than we did thats for damn sure

We might not target civilians, but if you were killed by an accidental USAF bomb, would you care that they didn't mean to kill you and your family? For some reason I doubt it.

And I don't believe that rabble rouser Bibi Netanyahu for a minute when he says he doesn't target civilians. Anytime you bomb a school with 30 kids and 2 accused terrorists, you're targeting the children for death.

but were not sending anyone to the polls they choose to vote ..and they voted in large numbers.. who are we to split Iraq into 3 groups ?? that would be imperialist ..let the Iraqi people decide is better than breaking up there country ..if they decide to break into 3 then that will be their fate ..but its better they decide

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT? Dude the imperialists set up Iraq. and going in and changing their government is not impoerialist. what hypocrisy in that statement, I really can't believe that.
I'm really in shock man.

[jameznyhc]

[QUOTE=metfan85;2900113]

because the masses are asses. how is Iran's system any worse than ours?

its a theocracy so there no checks and balances ..they are not a democracy ..they dont have a free press.. or freedom of speech

]We might not target civilians, but if you were killed by an accidental USAF bomb, would you care that they didn't mean to kill you and your family? For some reason I doubt it.

if someone is killed by friendly fire due you execute the other soldier? of course not .. in war horrible things happen .. but they choose to target women and children ..we dont

And I don't believe that rabble rouser Bibi Netanyahu for a minute when he says he doesn't target civilians. Anytime you bomb a school with 30 kids and 2 accused terrorists, you're targeting the children for death

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gotta disagree even thee massive gaza offensive they didnt even kill 0.01 % of the population its very difficult to be as precise as they were in such a narrow and condensed area as gaza .. if they chose to they could have wiped gaza off the face of the map .. besides the offensive they are excellent when it comes to killing the terrorists specifically ..this is how we should be doing it in afghanistan insstead of sending 20k into a guerilla war .. do you think Obama targets pakistani civilians? of course not .. in war its collatiral damage .. but we can learn to be more precise from the israelis ..

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT? Dude the imperialists set up Iraq. and going in and changing their government is not impoerialist. what hypocrisy in that statement, I really can't believe that.
I'm really in shock man

whenever you go to war you win it by defeating the country your fighting against .. of course the govt will change as the govt in germany and japan changed after ww2 .. but the people decide not the US .. again its not our business to split iraq into 3 ..its their own business .. we didnt force them to vote they chose too ..

[Bekim...]

and this morning he kneels before ZOD.... wow shame on him

[DINO nYc]

The President of the United States bowed......... once again for all you libs on the board, the President of the United States BOWED. I don't give a fuck who he was meeting - THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AKA LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD SHOULD NOT BOW FOR ANYONE.

[DINO nYc]

Hey momo, two men holding hands is a sign of respect and friendship in the Middle East.

[jameznyhc]

Hey momo, two men holding hands is a sign of respect and friendship in the Middle East.

Saddle doesnt get it.. respect and subserviant are worlds apart.. the man has zero protocal skills someone should tell him

A) never bow to muslim polticians

B) dont touch the Queen or give her an ipod

C) accept invitations from allies like sarkozy

D) when a soldier salutes you a commander in chief you salute back .. MoMo Barry had no clue and tried shaking a servicemens hand when he saluted Obama ..

its really fuckin embarassing

[crazyray™]

i'll be honest with you, this is so sad it's almost funny

[Rover]

we've been bowing to the saudis for decades....dont really see the issue here.