Gay marriage in NY?

[eL FryEdo]

It seems like they're going to trying passing this legislation again but I was curious how many people on this board are for or against this on NCC. I saw a poll on a newspaper website that had it at 60/40 against gay marriage in NY im sure it will be in favor for it on here though. I for one don't give a fuck ... plus cant they be taxed for that shit or do they receive tax breaks either way i dont see how it should it matter to anyone besides the religious nuts.

[.laurenx.]

for it. let them live already.

[DJ Becka]

Exactly.....I don't see why this is such a big deal.....they aren't hurting anyone....live and let live, I say.

[eL FryEdo]

i think its more so the religious fanatics who have gay people already being sentenced to eternal damnation lol

[jameznyhc]

for it. let them live already.

they can live .. its called a civil union .. i dont think gays should be denied any right or benefit or privlige of a married couple they deserve it all .. what they should be given is the right to change the institution of marriage and shove their values down my throat .. as i would not shove my values down the gay communitys throat .. ..i say let the people decide .. if the majority of ny'ers vote for gay marriage then so be it .. but 30 states have had it on the ballot and even the most liberal states like Mass and Cali decided marriage is an institution between a man and a woman .. the problem is when 7 judges overturn the voters decision ..

[eL FryEdo]

they can live .. its called a civil union .. i dont think gays should be denied any right or benefit or privlige of a married couple they deserve it all .. what they should be given is the right to change the institution of marriage and shove their values down my throat .. as i would not shove my values down the gay communitys throat .. ..i say let the people decide .. if the majority of ny'ers vote for gay marriage then so be it .. but 30 states have had it on the ballot and even the most liberal states like Mass and Cali decided marriage is an institution between a man and a woman .. the problem is when 7 judges overturn the voters decision ..

does a civil union reap every one of the benefits and drawbacks that a marriage does though?

[.laurenx.]

they can live .. its called a civil union .. i dont think gays should be denied any right or benefit or privlige of a married couple they deserve it all .. what they should be given is the right to change the institution of marriage and shove their values down my throat .. as i would not shove my values down the gay communitys throat .. ..i say let the people decide .. if the majority of ny'ers vote for gay marriage then so be it .. but 30 states have had it on the ballot and even the most liberal states like Mass and Cali decided marriage is an institution between a man and a woman .. the problem is when 7 judges overturn the voters decision ..

blah blah blah i dont know why you're quoting me lol

i just want my uncle tommy and aunt bruce to be happy
jt05u6747

[jameznyhc]

i think its more so the religious fanatics who have gay people already being sentenced to eternal damnation lol

my decision is definitly not rooted in religion .. because im for states rights and if NY'ers vote for it .. i can live with that .. i dont like what happened in Mass where judges overuled the americaN PEOPLE..

my argument is women and men are ddifferent ..biologically , hormonally, etc .. to say a same sex marriage is the same is false they cant produce life.. should they be denied benefits or rights? absolutly not.. does it make them "lesser" people? .. not at all .. but there certainly not equal in a scientific sense of a hetero couple

[jameznyhc]

blah blah blah i dont know why you're quoting me lol

i just want my uncle tommy and aunt bruce to be happy
jt05u6747

why wouldnt they be happy with a civil union?..i thought the fight was about giving gay people the rights and benefits of married couples ? which they totally deserve ..they dont deserve to change an instiution just to make them happy ..

[.laurenx.]

why wouldnt they be happy with a civil union?..i thought the fight was about giving gay people the rights and benefits of married couples ? which they totally deserve ..they dont deserve to change an instiution just to make them happy ..

wtf? please tell me where i said they wouldnt be happy with a civil union.relax.


but for all i care, they can change the instituion of marriage. do whatever the hell u want. no sweat off my back.

[jameznyhc]

wtf? please tell me where i said they wouldnt be happy with a civil union.relax.


but for all i care, they can change the instituion of marriage. do whatever the hell u want. no sweat off my back.

no sweat off your back cause you dont care about preserving the institution .. which is fine ..like i said if people vote for it im fine with it ..

[jameznyhc]

does a civil union reap every one of the benefits and drawbacks that a marriage does though?

yes except child tax credits ..unless they adopt which im fine with.. better than a foster home .. but that would be one drawback ..

one advantage is when men and women divorce ..now matter how little the man earns he must pay child support and women 9 out of 10 times is awarded custody .. a civil union it would probally be a 50/ 50 split

if a broke gay guy married a loaded gay guy or women to women ..it would probally be fairer.. that would be an adavantage .. i doubt a judge is gonna award a broke gay man who sits home all day the same awards a stay at home mom does raising a family .. raising children hard fuckin work .

[chris817]

no sweat off your back cause you dont care about preserving the institution .. which is fine ..like i said if people vote for it im fine with it ..

preserving the institution..lol i think thats long gone
divorce rate is sky high, tv shows like who wants to marry a millionaire, bachelor and the rest of them do wonders for that institution
but i do agree this should be decided by the states and if the people pass the law then so be it. NOT some judge overturning the people's will

[jameznyhc]

preserving the institution..lol i think thats long gone
divorce rate is sky high, tv shows like who wants to marry a millionaire, bachelor and the rest of them do wonders for that institution
but i do agree this should be decided by the states and if the people pass the law then so be it. NOT some judge overturning the people's will

ok so then it would bother you if everyone in your familys marriage was dissolved .. thats fine ..im not a fan of who wants to marry a abtchelor ..i feel shit like that is pathetic .. it totally cheapens marriage as much as an arranged marriage in some customs ..it totally helps destroy the institution .

if you think children dont mind when there parents divorce and dissolve their marriage your crazy they pay the highest price .. some parents sacrifice their selfishness and stay together for childrens sake until their adults and then divoirce ..thats how badly we know it hurts the kids

let the people decide ..one other thing i would say people value marriage even more today .. 18 and 19 yr olds getting hitched cause "its the thing to do" cheapened the instittuion led to massive divorce rates .. today people wait until their much much older .. i think today people respect the institution a hell of alot more thats why they are so careful and wait until there more mature..to avoid divorce

[chris817]

ok so then it would bother you if everyone in your familys marriage was dissolved .. thats fine ..im not a fan of who wants to marry a abtchelor ..i feel shit like that is pathetic .. it totally cheapens marriage as much as an arranged marriage in some customs ..it totally helps destroy the institution .

if you think children dont mind when there parents divorce and dissolve their marriage your crazy they pay the highest price .. some parents sacrifice their selfishness and stay together for childrens sake until their adults and then divoirce ..thats how badly we know it hurts the kids

let the people decide ..one other thing i would say people value marriage even more today .. 18 and 19 yr olds getting hitched cause "its the thing to do" cheapened the instittuion led to massive divorce rates .. today people wait until their much much older .. i think today people respect the institution a hell of alot more thats why they are so careful and wait until there more mature..to avoid divorce

why would everyone in my families marriage dissolve? i dont get what your point is
of course children mind when their parents get divorced, again i dont know where your going with this. It also hurts the kids to see their parents in a loveless marriage. i dont know where your getting your stats on nowadays people wait for marriage.
Thanks for just wasting all of our time reading that

[.laurenx.]

if you think children dont mind when there parents divorce and dissolve their marriage your crazy they pay the highest price .. some parents sacrifice their selfishness and stay together for childrens sake until their adults and then divoirce ..thats how badly we know it hurts the kids

which is probably the most idiotic thing ever . so what, they stay together and are miserable and fight all the time just for the sake of staying together.yea thats real great for the kids.

please, my parents divorced when i was 11 and it was much better not having to hear them argue.

[jameznyhc]

why would everyone in my families marriage dissolve? i dont get what your point is
of course children mind when their parents get divorced, again i dont know where your going with this. It also hurts the kids to see their parents in a loveless marriage. i dont know where your getting your stats on nowadays people wait for marriage.
Thanks for just wasting all of our time reading that

i was responding to your statement that preserving the instition is gone .. you dont know where im getting my stats on people waiting till their older are you kidding me how many links you want??? ... in the late 60s the average age was 18 .. 22 was considered old .. you havent noticed a shift in people waiting longer?..the proof is in the stats and real life .. even in utah fuckin utah average age is 26 ..lol that was mad old 30 years ago

[jameznyhc]

which is probably the most idiotic thing ever . so what, they stay together and are miserable and fight all the time just for the sake of staying together.yea thats real great for the kids.

please, my parents divorced when i was 11 and it was much better not having to hear them argue.

well its a good thing at 11 you thought it was better they are divorcing .. most kids dont.. unless one of the parents are abusive .but arguing is a part of relationships ..but usually parents who do put off the divorce for their childrens sake will put the kids concerns above their own and try to make it a normal household .. of course physical abuse and constant mental abuse is bad for a kid ..

[.laurenx.]

well its a good thing at 11 you thought it was better they are divorcing .. most kids dont.. unless one of the parents are abusive .but arguing is a part of relationships ..but usually parents who do put off the divorce for their childrens sake will put the kids concerns above their own and try to make it a normal household .. of course physical abuse and constant mental abuse is bad for a kid ..

neither of mine were abusive and the divorce was civil. but at 11, all i thought was

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2 bedrooms > 1 bedroom

[Bekim...]

i think people that dont think this is such a big deal are crazy
I vote a big fat NO