US and Israeli conflict

[just b u]

I hope that Bibi will be able to stick to his guns on this. US Embassador Mitchell is visiting Israel to talk about the Middle Eastern conflict. And of course trying to force Israel to agree to a 2 state solution, so that Palestinians would have their own state.

This should not be done at all, giving up West Bank aaaanndd the Golan Heights should be out of the question. The palestinians were given Gaza only to form it into a mini Hamas state that abuses its pple and throws rockets as civilians and commits terrorist acts on civilians. I mean i can go on and on but we all know what Hamas is.

Furthermore, the 2 heads of Hamas have just given a speech in which they have asserted that they will not acknowledge their enemy, the state of Israel as a jewish state, to them it doesnt exist. Now how can US force a country to give up land and let pple like Palestinians who are ruled by Hamas and dont acknowledge your existence, land? How long is terrorism going to be rewarded.

[jameznyhc]

I hope that Bibi will be able to stick to his guns on this. US Embassador Mitchell is visiting Israel to talk about the Middle Eastern conflict. And of course trying to force Israel to agree to a 2 state solution, so that Palestinians would have their own state.

This should not be done at all, giving up West Bank aaaanndd the Golan Heights should be out of the question. The palestinians were given Gaza only to form it into a mini Hamas state that abuses its pple and throws rockets as civilians and commits terrorist acts on civilians. I mean i can go on and on but we all know what Hamas is.

Furthermore, the 2 heads of Hamas have just given a speech in which they have asserted that they will not acknowledge their enemy, the state of Israel as a jewish state, to them it doesnt exist. Now how can US force a country to give up land and let pple like Palestinians who are ruled by Hamas and dont acknowledge your existence, land? How long is terrorism going to be rewarded.

how do you have a 2 state solution when the palestinians refuse to accept .. did somebody not tell them hamas was voted in BY THE PEOPLE .. and their main platform is the destruction of a jewish state ?? ..

they gave gaza back and it led to a war ..the choice is palestines not israel when it comes to 2 state solution ..a

[metfan85]

so what to do? just keep the Palestinians in prison or kill'em all or just kick'em out of the area?

[Andrew Thomas]

kill em

[jameznyhc]

so what to do? just keep the Palestinians in prison or kill'em all or just kick'em out of the area?

what would you do if you were bibi or a israeli citizen .. im curious cause i know your very aggressive when defending America at home ..i know how strongly you take the border issue


lets take a look at 1971 black sept.. jordan did what you just asked .. they murdered more palestinans in one month then israel has in their existence since the 40s and expelled them from jordan .. but we know Israel would never do that ..

[TrippinFace101]

They wanna push the jews into the sea. I say hold your ground and dont back down

[jameznyhc]

They wanna push the jews into the sea. I say hold your ground and dont back down

push the jews into the sea.. and if your in abbas party you will be dealt with just the same way in gaza..the jordianians murderd them in massive numbers they killed more palestinians in one month (sept 71) than israel has in their entire existence and expelled them .. egypt said fuck you during the gaza conflict and to this day there border is sealed the way Americas border should be sealed ... people say gaza is a hell hole ..well they demanded independance ..israel gave it to them ..and sealed the border .. now get this the world expects israel to supply them with aid and help and opening the border ..

[just b u]

i read somewhere, dont remember where lol that Bibi is suggesting financial independence. let me try to find that article.

[metfan85]

what would you do if you were bibi or a israeli citizen .. im curious cause i know your very aggressive when defending America at home ..i know how strongly you take the border issue


lets take a look at 1971 black sept.. jordan did what you just asked .. they murdered more palestinans in one month then israel has in their existence since the 40s and expelled them from jordan .. but we know Israel would never do that ..

how do we conventiently forget that Israel has many hundreds of thousands of settlers in the west bank and gaza. this isnt about defending it's borders, this is about expansion.

I don't get why no one wants to mention that?

[jameznyhc]

how do we conventiently forget that Israel has many hundreds of thousands of settlers in the west bank and gaza. this isnt about defending it's borders, this is about expansion.

I don't get why no one wants to mention that?

Alex i never expected spin from you !!! you completly avoided my question ..but ill answer yours ..

If palestine agrees to recognize israel .. stop promoting the destruction of the israeli state .. bibi will have no choice

the west bank and gaza belonged to countrys that attacked and tried to wipe israel off the map ..last i checked those countrys were not called palestine .. i never heard of a country that existed in 3 different geological areas .. besides empires .. but i remmber correctly syria was one that had the golan heights.. egypt claimed gaza . they lost that land when israel was invaded by all her neighbors in a preemptive war .. the goal was not to transfer power either it was to elimate and kill the jews and destroy israel

Sharon gave gaza back.. there is a border patrol protecting israel .. after all the palestinains demanded gaza and independance when sharon agreed he bull dozed his own people to give land to a country that never existed had a goverment or borders .. as a matter of fact they also demand jerusalem and israel itself not be considered a jewish nation even though its the birth place of judaism and chritianity ..Israel laws are based on hmmm oh yes judeo- christian principles

now gazans or palestinans reponded with rocckets .. with that said what would you do if you were bibi ??oh lets not discount Americas involvement .. Rahm emmauel is demading the west bank be returned before Obama sits with netanyahu .. im sure paleos are rejoycing at Obamas INTERVENTION ..once again you guys loose credibilty when people like defeckted and myself knew Obama would kick israel to the curb ..

[just b u]

how do we conventiently forget that Israel has many hundreds of thousands of settlers in the west bank and gaza. this isnt about defending it's borders, this is about expansion.

I don't get why no one wants to mention that?

Israel was never in it for expansion, ever. When the UN partitioned land and gave a divided Israel to the Jews, the jews accepted what was given. However the Arabs did not because they simply just want the annihilation of jews. Now all the defensive wars that Israel fought and won gave Israel the right to extra land, cause that's what happens in war lol. Now this land that Israel has one, the Sinai, the west bank, gaza, golan heights was Israel's and Israel's plan was and still is to use it as bargaining chips for peace. With Egypt it worked, we gave back Sanai, we gave back gaza and look what happened, a small place for hamas to prosper.

Now lets not forget that the west bank was under Jordan's control and Gaza was under Syria's control i think from about 1948 to 1967. Dont you think that at this time these countries would help Palestinians to form a civilized country?? No, you know what happened, they separated the Palestinians into ghettos or so called refugee camps. You know why?? Because in reality all that arabs use palestinians for is to attack Jews. the arabs dont like palestinians, they think they're dirt, they just use them as weapons. and being that palestinians are poor and not educated it works.

[jameznyhc]

actually made a mistatement ..Rahm is pressuring bibi to give up the west bank .for negotiations ... of course Obama gonna have to meet him first .. i was typing fast

[jameznyhc]

Israel was never in it for expansion, ever. When the UN partitioned land and gave a divided Israel to the Jews, the jews accepted what was given. However the Arabs did not because they simply just want the annihilation of jews. Now all the defensive wars that Israel fought and won gave Israel the right to extra land, cause that's what happens in war lol. Now this land that Israel has one, the Sinai, the west bank, gaza, golan heights was Israel's and Israel's plan was and still is to use it as bargaining chips for peace. With Egypt it worked, we gave back Sanai, we gave back gaza and look what happened, a small place for hamas to prosper.

Now lets not forget that the west bank was under Jordan's control and Gaza was under Syria's control i think from about 1948 to 1967. Dont you think that at this time these countries would help Palestinians to form a civilized country?? No, you know what happened, they separated the Palestinians into ghettos or so called refugee camps. You know why?? Because in reality all that arabs use palestinians for is to attack Jews. the arabs dont like palestinians, they think they're dirt, they just use them as weapons. and being that palestinians are poor and not educated it works.

oh its not just the arabs either ..there a block here in america .. they even try to tie savage in with rush and sean .. they ignored savage when cair went after him .. they lump mark levin in with fuckin sean hannity .. a scholar on the constition and a man like savage then portray as republican cheerleaders .. they crucify krauthammer who is backing opening relations with cuba, and opposing afgahnistan surge .. he opposed bosnia as well .. and influenced Obama to make a commitment on not creating embryos ..they to add insult to injury they lump krauthammer in with kristol ... savage defended one of these men for years ..until he rewrote history and blamed england for germany invasion of poland LOL .. yep defending a pre emptive war .. then he blamed fdr on japans bombing of hawaii .. he praised the hell out of obama during the prinmary.. now you tell me these independant men who are neither old right or neocon they are the real independants that cant be labeled anything but patriotic americans ..funny thing is if i posted a buchana speech when he was a cold warrior that made the russians fuckin quake in their boots .. pat was louder than most cold warriors and more aggressive .. there was decision to break away from the reagan goldwater buckley who promtoed untiy among conservatives , libertarians, and too reach out to blue dog dems .. how sad .. by the way edmund burke institue just honored mark levin .. wonder if amcon reported that

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