Super Bowl - Patriots vs Giants Part Deux

[tonei.]

fans or players? Please elaborate as I was not present at the time.

Fans...

these guys here were brutal

[tonei.]

Rodgers has been an 'elite' qb for what 3 years now.. Brady has been consistant for a decade now.. he has a LONGGGGGGGGGG way to go before he is in Brady legacy type talk.

listen dude dont make this week more complicated then it has to be for me

[Mothahen]

listen dude dont make this week more complicated then it has to be for me

[igotabs]

I have always HATED the pats (but respected BB's system approach)...


But this new found hatred of the Giants is remarkable, the way they handled that win (GB) was nothing short douchebaggery (also this was from typically non douchebag people, (or they did a good job of hiding it up to this point)...

So i have to push for a Brady win, even tho that pretty much kills Rodgers Goat chances (or hurts them severely).....


They really put me in a tight spot this year

I figured.......I kind of feel the same way with Montana, lol
But still, Montana 4-0 with a qb rating over 100 in all of those SBs and 11 TDs- ) INTs in my eyes would still Have Joe ahead of Tom and his 4-1.........

On the flip side for you though......If Eli wins that is one more than Rodgers and he is starting to make a push because his playoff play is starting to be legendary with more body of work in the playoffs

[igotabs]

Rodgers has been an 'elite' qb for what 3 years now.. Brady has been consistant for a decade now.. he has a LONGGGGGGGGGG way to go before he is in Brady legacy type talk.

I just hated when some guys on here and in the public were crowing Rodgers as the All Time Greatest Ever, already
But....Rodgers has not played long, so he can only control what he has played and he def is at least well on Pace for the GOAT debate.....I just wish people would word it like that, than crowning him when they just assume GB was going 19-0 and back to back SB champs

[beachman]

I just hated when some guys on here and in the public were crowing Rodgers as the All Time Greatest Ever, already
But....Rodgers has not played long, so he can only control what he has played and he def is at least well on Pace for the GOAT debate.....I just wish people would word it like that, than crowning him when they just assume GB was going 19-0 and back to back SB champs

it was very stupid and I said as much then-rodgers is not even the best packer qb ever or even the second best yet-his body of work is way way too short-lets see if he plays for 10+ years and what things look like then

[tonei.]

I figured.......I kind of feel the same way with Montana, lol
But still, Montana 4-0 with a qb rating over 100 in all of those SBs and 11 TDs- ) INTs in my eyes would still Have Joe ahead of Tom and his 4-1.........

On the flip side for you though......If Eli wins that is one more than Rodgers and he is starting to make a push because his playoff play is starting to be legendary with more body of work in the playoffs

its a fail all around...


Best possible outcome was a GB/Pats Sb , with packers winning 65-61.....


Instead, hell

[igotabs]

it was very stupid and I said as much then-rodgers is not even the best packer qb ever or even the second best yet-his body of work is way way too short-lets see if he plays for 10+ years and what things look like then

He def is well on pace...but I agree, some peoples careers on the ranking scale take a dip as there careers play out
Favre is the perfect example........A lot of "people" going into the 2000s had him as a Top 5 all time QB (because they assumed he would prob win one or two more SBs).......Than he took a dip ( I think more so because people started to dislike his diva retirings) but I started to rank him higher factoring the level he was playing at, at what age (and I really do factor in that streak...to me the most impressive streak of consecutive games in any sport)
His best stats season was at 40 years old and he did win that year...great regular season and a play away from making the SB

But also the fact his best stats season was at 40 also tells you have much more this new era of play and rules, makes QBs look better and stats better

[tonei.]

I just hated when some guys on here and in the public were crowing Rodgers as the All Time Greatest Ever, already
But....Rodgers has not played long, so he can only control what he has played and he def is at least well on Pace for the GOAT debate.....I just wish people would word it like that, than crowning him when they just assume GB was going 19-0 and back to back SB champs

it was very stupid and I said as much then-rodgers is not even the best packer qb ever or even the second best yet-his body of work is way way too short-lets see if he plays for 10+ years and what things look like then

let it play out...

But to say at this pace it ridiculous for speculating it (all this is speculation, he could die or be forced to retire tomorrow)....

[igotabs]

Yea but that is why it ain't crazy to say at "This Pace"
Better than saying "already"

[Mikey Bananas]

absolutely.. at "this pace" he is on his way to being in that discussion, there are jsut many championships, division titles, conf title games to be won in order to get there

[tonei.]

Yea but that is why it ain't crazy to say at "This Pace"
Better than saying "already"

i am not from the "after fact side of things"... Its just speculation


Example: If I think oil is going to 300... I will say oil is going to 300, but buy oil when its at 100...


Anyone in my eyes can see oil at 300 and say, look oil is at 300....


Ha..... Come on brochacho's...

[SlickBri481]

He def is well on pace...but I agree, some peoples careers on the ranking scale take a dip as there careers play out
Favre is the perfect example........A lot of "people" going into the 2000s had him as a Top 5 all time QB (because they assumed he would prob win one or two more SBs).......Than he took a dip ( I think more so because people started to dislike his diva retirings) but I started to rank him higher factoring the level he was playing at, at what age (and I really do factor in that streak...to me the most impressive streak of consecutive games in any sport)
His best stats season was at 40 years old and he did win that year...great regular season and a play away from making the SB

But also the fact his best stats season was at 40 also tells you have much more this new era of play and rules, makes QBs look better and stats better

Favre has 1 season of great stats under the new rules (post-2004 when things really changed), 1 good one, and like 3 or 4 mediocre to awful ones. Who are you kidding? It was a great year, but it was surrrounded by almost nothing but crappy ones

[eL FryEdo]

In response to your week off regarding the giants tabs ... Coughlin will not let them let up. He and the players know what's at stake. This is it right here I expect every player to leave their blood and hits on the field and I'm not just saying that as fan but from what I've seen these past few weeks and what I've been reading from player and coughlin quotes

[SlickBri481]

I mean I have watched tons of highlights but that's not the same obviously ... And I've been reading the Espn boards a lot. They know their shit

Well they actually watch the games, so inherently they have the edge on you

[igotabs]

I'm not talking about the week off (per se) Meaning when I said that, they have been use to this routine during this stretch
Of course Tom or not even Tom, just the players in general know what's at stake and will do the work during this first off week....I am just saying they have been on a groove on consecutive weeks since Christmas....The bye week in between stops that

[Forca Barca]

Fans...

these guys here were brutal

Srsly? I thought it was pretty tame in here after the GB win.

[eL FryEdo]

Yea but at the same token so have the pats .... I think this week off will actual be beneficial the 49er game was a slugfest players are definitely feelin the effects of that. As long as they practice with high intensity they will be fine

[eL FryEdo]

Well they actually watch the games, so inherently they have the edge on you

And you're the equivalent of a sports ostrich with your head up your ass at all times so what's your point

[k10]