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    Obama's State of the Union

    He doubled down. Gave 9% approval rating congress zero wiggle room for 2012, and basically exposed the misinformation all 18 GOP debates have been pushing. IMO it was a "game on" speech. This before he even releases his reelection army. I loved how he finally explained to the public how many industries have been created by public $$$. Something a lot of people still don't know.

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    Hopefully it was his last SOTU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forca Barca View Post
    Hopefully it was his last SOTU.
    He'll have 270 electoral votes by 10pm on November 6th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadelb View Post
    He doubled down. Gave 9% approval rating congress zero wiggle room for 2012, and basically exposed the misinformation all 18 GOP debates have been pushing. IMO it was a "game on" speech. This before he even releases his reelection army. I loved how he finally explained to the public how many industries have been created by public $$$. Something a lot of people still don't know.
    here how it should have went ...

    we are all much worse off NOW than four years ago

    more foreclosures

    higher unemployment

    started a pre emptive war with libya

    shoved a healthcare bill down your throats that you all hate

    10,000 jobs lost this year alone in finacial sector thanks to dodd frank

    i still have not stopped subprimes and artifiically low rates

    inflation is killing us gas is up 2 dollars more per gallon then when i took office

    I lied to you about repealing patriot act

    I lied to you about repealing bush tax cuts

    I lied to you about repealing domestic spy

    I lied to you about being against pre emptive wars

    I handed egypt and Libya to Al qaeda and Muslim brotherhood

    I sank our dollar to its lowest levels

    Our allies hate us more than ever

    Wall st has kicked ass & main street still struggling

    Bread, meat and dairy has gone up over 30% since i took office

    and Im still averaging beween 350-400k unemployment claims weekly

    more people on food stamps today than ever before

    I lied to you about repealing NAFTA

    On my watch fast n furious led to us supplying drug runners in mexico with guns to kill our border agents

    small time mortgage brokers are DYING (just ask our boy Ricky)

    My stimulus plan was a massive fail ...a trillion spent and unemployment still went way past 8%

    Ive done nothing to attract apple, GE, and countless corporations to bring jobs home

    Im running a war in afghanistan with no goals, benchmarks, strategy and my rules of engagement are killing are soldiers

    I consider Libya genocide (although none to place) and turned a blind eye to Iran, Syria, Darfur and Nigeria

    black unemployment is 22%

    I elected a supreme court justice who is in her own word an affirmitive action baby

    Ive spent more money than the last 3 presidents combined

    last but not least I killed 10,000 jobs by nixing keystone pipeline ...this is good because now the PM of canada is going to do that business with China

    Ive done nothing to fix trade so it is fair trade

    and for the kicker I have just authorized the US military to superceded local police to arrest you ..but guess what suckers you get no trial or lawyer ..

    Guess what suckers im sending you to the place I promised to close Gitmo ...

    I have abolished Torture ... insytead i authorize the murder of enemy combatants in foreign countries ... after all KSM was only waterboarded we dont like waterboarding we like shoot to kill and flush bin laden down the ocean like a toilet



    hows that for re-election campaign?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameznyhc View Post
    here how it should have went ...

    we are all much worse off NOW than four years ago

    more foreclosures

    higher unemployment

    started a pre emptive war with libya

    shoved a healthcare bill down your throats that you all hate

    10,000 jobs lost this year alone in finacial sector thanks to dodd frank

    i still have not stopped subprimes and artifiically low rates

    inflation is killing us gas is up 2 dollars more per gallon then when i took office

    I lied to you about repealing patriot act

    I lied to you about repealing bush tax cuts

    I lied to you about repealing domestic spy

    I lied to you about being against pre emptive wars

    I handed egypt and Libya to Al qaeda and Muslim brotherhood

    I sank our dollar to its lowest levels

    Our allies hate us more than ever

    Wall st has kicked ass & main street still struggling

    Bread, meat and dairy has gone up over 30% since i took office

    and Im still averaging beween 350-400k unemployment claims weekly

    more people on food stamps today than ever before

    I lied to you about repealing NAFTA

    On my watch fast n furious led to us supplying drug runners in mexico with guns to kill our border agents

    small time mortgage brokers are DYING (just ask our boy Ricky)

    My stimulus plan was a massive fail ...a trillion spent and unemployment still went way past 8%

    Ive done nothing to attract apple, GE, and countless corporations to bring jobs home

    Im running a war in afghanistan with no goals, benchmarks, strategy and my rules of engagement are killing are soldiers

    I consider Libya genocide (although none to place) and turned a blind eye to Iran, Syria, Darfur and Nigeria

    black unemployment is 22%

    I elected a supreme court justice who is in her own word an affirmitive action baby

    Ive spent more money than the last 3 presidents combined

    last but not least I killed 10,000 jobs by nixing keystone pipeline ...this is good because now the PM of canada is going to do that business with China

    Ive done nothing to fix trade so it is fair trade

    and for the kicker I have just authorized the US military to superceded local police to arrest you ..but guess what suckers you get no trial or lawyer ..

    Guess what suckers im sending you to the place I promised to close Gitmo ...

    I have abolished Torture ... insytead i authorize the murder of enemy combatants in foreign countries ... after all KSM was only waterboarded we dont like waterboarding we like shoot to kill and flush bin laden down the ocean like a toilet



    hows that for re-election campaign?
    the right wing fringe where you get your ideas and spin from is exactly the reason why its going to be so easy for him. Too much regulation has absolutely NOTHING to do with our economy right now. Too little regulation is why we are in this mess. And the public is finally smartening up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jameznyhc View Post
    here how it should have went ...

    we are all much worse off NOW than four years ago

    more foreclosures

    higher unemployment

    started a pre emptive war with libya

    shoved a healthcare bill down your throats that you all hate

    10,000 jobs lost this year alone in finacial sector thanks to dodd frank

    i still have not stopped subprimes and artifiically low rates

    inflation is killing us gas is up 2 dollars more per gallon then when i took office

    I lied to you about repealing patriot act

    I lied to you about repealing bush tax cuts

    I lied to you about repealing domestic spy

    I lied to you about being against pre emptive wars

    I handed egypt and Libya to Al qaeda and Muslim brotherhood

    I sank our dollar to its lowest levels

    Our allies hate us more than ever

    Wall st has kicked ass & main street still struggling

    Bread, meat and dairy has gone up over 30% since i took office

    and Im still averaging beween 350-400k unemployment claims weekly

    more people on food stamps today than ever before

    I lied to you about repealing NAFTA

    On my watch fast n furious led to us supplying drug runners in mexico with guns to kill our border agents

    small time mortgage brokers are DYING (just ask our boy Ricky)

    My stimulus plan was a massive fail ...a trillion spent and unemployment still went way past 8%

    Ive done nothing to attract apple, GE, and countless corporations to bring jobs home

    Im running a war in afghanistan with no goals, benchmarks, strategy and my rules of engagement are killing are soldiers

    I consider Libya genocide (although none to place) and turned a blind eye to Iran, Syria, Darfur and Nigeria

    black unemployment is 22%

    I elected a supreme court justice who is in her own word an affirmitive action baby

    Ive spent more money than the last 3 presidents combined

    last but not least I killed 10,000 jobs by nixing keystone pipeline ...this is good because now the PM of canada is going to do that business with China

    Ive done nothing to fix trade so it is fair trade

    and for the kicker I have just authorized the US military to superceded local police to arrest you ..but guess what suckers you get no trial or lawyer ..

    Guess what suckers im sending you to the place I promised to close Gitmo ...

    I have abolished Torture ... insytead i authorize the murder of enemy combatants in foreign countries ... after all KSM was only waterboarded we dont like waterboarding we like shoot to kill and flush bin laden down the ocean like a toilet



    hows that for re-election campaign?
    I could tear so much of that to pieces in a matter of minutes but for now I will reference this one point -I like that you reference wall street kicking ass and then go on to mention the jobs lost in the financial sector-hey you better not pick up that hot pot over there cause it is really cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachman View Post
    I could tear so much of that to pieces in a matter of minutes but for now I will reference this one point -I like that you reference wall street kicking ass and then go on to mention the jobs lost in the financial sector-hey you better not pick up that hot pot over there cause it is really cold
    Why the govt is just gonna bail out wall street again and your gonna complain about the ceos getting bonuses after the fact. You rewarded them for bad behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beachman View Post
    I could tear so much of that to pieces in a matter of minutes but for now I will reference this one point -I like that you reference wall street kicking ass and then go on to mention the jobs lost in the financial sector-hey you better not pick up that hot pot over there cause it is really cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathieu View Post
    do not tell me about making friends at djais. the day you wear a bee costume on stage, you can come and tell me how to make friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forca Barca View Post
    Ahh there's the change he was talking about, lol

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    I am far from a left Obama supporter, but then again i am far from a right...



    How can anyone with a straight face even sit here and push Obama having anything to do with the down turn in the economy??


    In my eyes it is a miracle the economy and the market is where it is... i Have no idea how we are not in an full blown depression right now.... We are basically bankrupt, Europe is bankrupt, Japan is bankrupt, houses (the avg person financial lifeblood) are worthless, and will prob continue to be for another 3 years, we have no backup plan to oil (that has nothing to do with Obama), Brink of world Apocalypse with Israel, they will use a nuke at some point (with or without america, there probably waiting to see if Obama gets reelected)..


    And the market and economy are really not that bad.... Yes you can thank Ben Bernanke and his button pushing monkeys, but you really cant blame Obama for the problems, i don't agree with how he handled it because i believe in the end this will all collapse, we have literally fixed none of the issues, but maybe there is an outside chance it might not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forca Barca View Post
    and what do you think the chart looks like from end of clintons term to end of 2nd bush term? that story would be much worse

    some of the above frankly also have nothing to do with who the president of the country is

    lastly under a mccain palin administration things would be as bad if not worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonei. View Post
    I am far from a left Obama supporter, but then again i am far from a right...



    How can anyone with a straight face even sit here and push Obama having anything to do with the down turn in the economy??


    In my eyes it is a miracle the economy and the market is where it is... i Have no idea how we are not in an full blown depression right now.... We are basically bankrupt, Europe is bankrupt, Japan is bankrupt, houses (the avg person financial lifeblood) are worthless, and will prob continue to be for another 3 years, we have no backup plan to oil (that has nothing to do with Obama), Brink of world Apocalypse with Israel, they will use a nuke at some point (with or without america, there probably waiting to see if Obama gets reelected)..


    And the market and economy are really not that bad.... Yes you can thank Ben Bernanke and his button pushing monkeys, but you really cant blame Obama for the problems, i don't agree with how he handled it because i believe in the end this will all collapse, we have literally fixed none of the issues, but maybe there is an outside chance it might not...
    I am no huge obama guy now(will admit I voted for him and thought he would do better on some key issues) but people quickly forget that when he took office the market was near 8k now going towards 13k-fed actions sure play a role but still that move is unheard of-secondly the reason BUSH signed off on and created many of the bailouts is because the nation was in a horrible position not because things were so grand and rosy -the bank bailouts and the auto bail outs started under bush-if things were so wonderful why did you do them

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachman View Post
    I am no huge obama guy now(will admit I voted for him and thought he would do better on some key issues) but people quickly forget that when he took office the market was near 8k now going towards 13k-fed actions sure play a role but still that move is unheard of-secondly the reason BUSH signed off on and created many of the bailouts is because the nation was in a horrible position not because things were so grand and rosy -the bank bailouts and the auto bail outs started under bush-if things were so wonderful why did you do them
    To say Obama walked into one of the worst situations in the last 50 years of this country, is an understatement....


    That being said, what he has done has solely been to get himself reelected, that's politics... But it is not a long term solution, this will breakdown just like Europe will break down... When, who knows..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonei. View Post
    To say Obama walked into one of the worst situations in the last 50 years of this country, is an understatement....


    That being said, what he has done has solely been to get himself reelected, that's politics... But it is not a long term solution, this will breakdown just like Europe will break down... When, who knows..
    for me it is tough watching him do many of the same bush policies he was so against-as far as the economy goes I gotta say I am happy with where we are considering where it looked like we were going-people act like everything was just wonderful when he took office very very short term memory for some-he was given the keys to a house on fire and then afterwards reps would say damn look at all of that smoke we are seeing from an obama's house - forgetting they lit the fire-as I said bush bailed out multiple industries on his way out because we were facing doom and gloom-obama was not given the same cards handed to bush from clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonei. View Post
    I am far from a left Obama supporter, but then again i am far from a right...



    How can anyone with a straight face even sit here and push Obama having anything to do with the down turn in the economy??


    In my eyes it is a miracle the economy and the market is where it is... i Have no idea how we are not in an full blown depression right now.... We are basically bankrupt, Europe is bankrupt, Japan is bankrupt, houses (the avg person financial lifeblood) are worthless, and will prob continue to be for another 3 years, we have no backup plan to oil (that has nothing to do with Obama), Brink of world Apocalypse with Israel, they will use a nuke at some point (with or without america, there probably waiting to see if Obama gets reelected)..


    And the market and economy are really not that bad.... Yes you can thank Ben Bernanke and his button pushing monkeys, but you really cant blame Obama for the problems, i don't agree with how he handled it because i believe in the end this will all collapse, we have literally fixed none of the issues, but maybe there is an outside chance it might not...
    As always, speaking sense & on point
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    No way will a black, dem, muslim senator win the presidency...

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    I didn't watch it. Started watching it for like 2 mins and then got tired of people standing up and clapping every 7 seconds.

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    that gets really annoying, but they do it every time for every president lol
    Only boring people get bored....

    "FAITH MEANS TO MAKE A VIRTUE OUT OF NOT THINKING"- Bill Maher

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt'nAmerica View Post
    No way will a black, dem, muslim senator win the presidency...

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    This speech means very little, he could come out and say he will piss gold and shit oil. Doesn't mean anything unless he follows through.

    Obama was like Billie Jean out there. FAIR IS FAIR

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